Which Direction Is the US Economy Headed?

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t.alex
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t.alex   1/16/2011 9:30:17 AM
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Tom, you have a great point. "Playing the card safe" is a buzzword now. Companies might still be cautious and take steady approach for growing, and that's why the jobless rate is still lingering around. 

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anandvy   1/13/2011 12:44:52 AM
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JLS,

   I slightly disagree with your statement that "Chinese peasant who gets a job in the new iPhone factory isn't ging to turn around".But there is another angle to look at it


1)  Recall the recent visit of Obama to India. President Barack Obama's India visit has been successful in creating thousands of jobs for Americans. Reality is India and China are seen as big market by US
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2) Samsung,Nokia phones are sold like hot cakes. I agree no body buys IPHONE here but  for every iphone sold in US, 10 smart phones are sold in India and China. what I am stressing here is Volume is the key and not the price.

 

 

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WHich Direction Is the US Economy headed?
J-TX   1/12/2011 10:38:44 AM

Sideways, it's headed sideways.  And I think that's a good thing, for now, so we don't artificially inflate our markets and set ourselves up for another huge crash.

The larger question is WHY?  Why is there still high unemployment?   WHy do the corporations not invest their hoarded cash?  Why are we not seeing greater job growth, commensurate with the expansion of GDP?

The simple answer is, over the last 20 years, consumer confidence has shriveled to a raisin from a once plump and juicy grape.  And this is not confidence in the "economy". It is confidence in the US Government, whose fiscal, military and social policies have damaged our ability to continue growth.   Excessive debt is the biggest factor.  Think about it in micro terms:  If a household is severely in debt, not only are they going to stop expanding, but they will contract, and be unable to maintain current levels of services (Entitlements) unless they iuncur even greater debt.  And eventually they are going to ask more from members of the household in the way of contributions, either by no longer getting allowance or having a smaller Christmas (TAXES).  Or askking a relative to takre care of a kid or two for a "while".  (Outsourcing Jobs)

That's why the stimulus packages were such utter failures.  You can't spend your way out of debt.  You eventually have to start cutting somewhere.  Didn't make Clinton popular, but he was the only President to balance a budget since the '50's.

Until we as a people take back our government and overhaul the Tax Code, Entitlements, and the sheer SIZE of our government, we will never again be able to generate the positive expectations necessary to fuel long-term sustained growth.

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Bolaji Ojo   1/11/2011 8:59:09 PM
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I couldn't have said it better. People who keep talking about how and why outsourcing is good for consumers generally don't seem to get it that you need to make money to spend money. The government does not have the means to support a large unemployed labor force. Local jobs are needed and in my opnion, these should include manufacturing jobs too. Our goal should be to find ways to make ourselves competitive in manufacturing and not just believe it's impossible and simply keep shifting jobs overseas. An economy of unemployed is an economy in distress.

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JLS   1/11/2011 8:46:24 PM
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If there isn't more investment in the U.S. and jobs continue to go off shore, there will a smaller base of "customers" for all the goods that are being made.  I can guarantee a Chinese peasant who gets a job in the new iPhone factory isn't ging to turn around and use his new-found wealth to buy some high-tech gizmo that American companies are selling.  American workers are the ones who primarily buy their products, and if they aren't working, they aren't buying!

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Ariella   1/10/2011 1:22:33 PM
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That's quite a question, Bolaji.  The answer may depend on one's view of utility vs. ethical considerations.  As for legality, the companies usually know how to skirt the law, or at least get the lawyers to make sure they are technical compliance.  I've heard that many companies have taken money that was supposed to keep them in business in order to maintain US jobs, but then they shift operations overseas without any compunctions.  Even on a local level, companies sometimes don't give back to the places that offer them tax breaks specifically to keep up employment in the area.  

Several years ago, for example, New York extended major tax breaks to Goldman Sachs to try to keep the offices in New York. see http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-135190551.html While it accepted those tax breaks, it set up offices in Jersey City, even moving employees who live in New York to work over there.  As a  result, New York lost out on some of the income tax from those employees.  The losses increased even more to both states when large numbers of employees were let go and had to collect unemployment insurance from the state where they were officially employed.

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Bolaji Ojo   1/10/2011 10:34:45 AM
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Hi Ariella, Eemom, Great and valid points. I want to throw in some additional stuff though and I would appreciate your opinion. If we say that companies have obligations to their society, which segment of the entire society are we referring to, the local or the international?

By transferring jobs overseas, companies are gutting jobs in headquarter countries. Should they be held accountable for the rise in unemployment in home countries or better still, do they have obligations to make sure people in headquarter countries are also gainfully employed?

I ask because many of the companies that are retrenching or refusing to hire in North America are still hiring or have open positions in other parts of the globe. Do they have an obligation to move these jobs to other parts of the globe as part of their efforts to renew their societies?

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eemom   1/10/2011 10:10:29 AM
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I agree with Ariella and Anna.  Let's not forget that if companies invest in their society, they will most likely reap the benefit of their investments.  If they want sales to go up, who is going to buy their products if consumers continue to be gun shy about spending and about the "recovering economy?"

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Ariella   1/10/2011 9:18:46 AM
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I agree with Anna.  I understand the principles of capitalism.  However, the profit motive does not necessarily mean that one completely ignores the rest of society.  Certainly, highly successful companies regularly donate to philanthropic causes to try to demonstrate that they are not ruthless robber barons and do care about those around them.  That may all be lip service for the sake of public relations, but it still shows that a company does not function in a vacuum.

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Anna young   1/10/2011 7:57:33 AM
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Hawk, It may seem unnecessary for companies to watch out for the "common good" and focus instead on creating shareholder value alone but there may also be a ton of folly in ignoring the larger needs of a society. Companies do not exist in a vacuum; they exist because other segments of the society jointly create the environment in which they can pursue their corporate goals. A company can do good (for its business) by doing good in its society.

Companies should, naturally, be cautious about hiring but oftentimes, an investment in a business is also an investment in a society. Higher employment raises consumer confidence, boosts consumption, which in turn lead to stronger employment. The cycle is good for businesses and the community. Is that message going out?

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