Feeding China's Commodities Dragon

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Mr. Roques
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Re: Should we be afraid?
Mr. Roques   10/28/2011 3:22:19 PM
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Interesting partnership... it definitely makes sense. Countries need to understand that investing in their own infrastructure might be the best investment they can make (something Korea learned early on). 

If they decide to sell their minerals and get cash or bonds, while it's money -- maybe they won't know how to invest it efficiently (and end up losing part of it in bureocracy - to say it nicely).

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tech4people   9/18/2011 1:23:39 PM
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Mr.Roques,

Countries are slowly but surely adapting this route.

I see Countries like Chile and a few nations in Africa sign deals along these lines only.We will give you the Commodities but in return you have to give us Roads,Dams,Bridges and Schools.

Its a Win-Win for all concerned.

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Ashish.

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Mr. Roques   9/14/2011 7:00:26 PM
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It's interesting to see how that plays out. Insourcing started taking importance a few months ago but an article in EBN later told us that it won't live for long.

China NEEDS to slow down according to some economic analyst. 

Who do you think can take China's place? India?

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Re: Should we be afraid?
Mr. Roques   9/14/2011 6:57:33 PM
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I know they aren't being forced, in the strick sense of the word. But when we think of developing countries, in most cases, we should also associate it with lack of long term vision and that makes them think that they money they can get now is what matters.

If a govmnt has a careful plan, it might realize that it's better for them to not export something and have it, at a lower price, to promote local industries. If not, they will only have the $ obtained from the sale, no long term progress in that.

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Feeding China's Commodities Dragon
mario8a   8/26/2011 11:34:36 AM
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Hello

I guess in terms of feeding Chinas Commodities, China is facing a bigger problem, their economy is getting stronger and it will become less attractive for invesment, few Years ago their R&B was 8 to 1 against the US dollar, Now is around 6 to 1, what this means is that investors will have to spend more money to make bussiness with China, what is forcing to look else where.

seems like soon we will have an ew player on OEM / ODM partnership.

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Re: Should we be afraid?
tech4people   8/26/2011 9:30:21 AM
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Bolaji,

That makes perfect sense in the context of looking at how Commodity cycles develop.

Boom and Bust is very much the hallmark of these cycles.The Analysts at S&P realise that and are just trying to warn enough people in the hopes of smoothing that cycle.

Too bad people don't realize it (and keep screaming this time is different) again and again and again.

Maybe Commodity Bulls should just open their history books.

What do you think?

Do you think Manufacturers have what it takes within themselves to,

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It offers manufacturers the opportunity to understand better how to prepare for, anticipate and strategize against market imbalances.

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Ashish.

 

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tech4people   8/26/2011 9:16:22 AM
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Roques,

That is exactly the china modus operandi.

And its worked out very wel for them so far.

Regards

Ashish,

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tech4people   8/26/2011 9:09:54 AM
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Roques,

Nobody's forcing anyone to sell.The Smaller countries are doing it because they need the cash for Govt spending.

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Ashish.

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Re: Should we be afraid?
Mr. Roques   8/25/2011 4:40:19 PM
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Well, it might be speculation BUT it's raising the price. We'll have to see how long it takes them to realize it's simply too much.

In the mean time, smaller countries have to sell everything they have to China, hurting their growth.

Thanks for your analysis.

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Re: Should we be afraid?
Mr. Roques   7/29/2011 12:23:24 PM
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Exctly, there's no local industry... but maybe it's because steel is so expensive! 

It's a question of policies, and maybe a 10-yr strategy. Build local industries with the local supplies (no export) and after that, export to the current market price (which will be higher because of scarcity - due to the local-only policy).

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