Kindle vs. iPad: 'Nasty' Tablet War Ahead?

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DennisQ   8/29/2011 5:54:22 PM
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Bolaji, I agree with you: Apple is also winning because it's very price competitive. Any device that has more-or-less the same ballpark specs as an iPad also ends up being in the same ballpark price-wise. Some are a little cheaper, some are a little more expensive, but there's nothing out there that is essentially a near-iPad clone that runs Android and is $399.

Amazon entering the market is super interesting, and they're the best positioned to compete against Apple. My big question is... what price point are they going to launch with? $499 is an impossibility. $399? Hmm. That sounds about right, but it's worth noting that the Kindle DX -- which is essentially the same screen size as an iPad 2 -- is currently selling for $379.

Now I know that Kindle price drops and new models are on their way, but on one hand it seems a little ambitious to think that Amazon can launch a viable iPad competitor for $399. Yet the essentially need to be at this price point... and maybe even cheaper than that! $349? I think that's probably just about right: $349 for the base model, maybe it's only 8 GB or something.

Anyhow, this is why in an earlier post I speculated that the TouchPad wouldn't be the best tablet deal you'd see all year, because if Amazon comes in with an aggressively priced tablet -- as you point out -- where is this going to leave Asus, Acer, Toshiba, Samsung, Lenovo, Motorola, etc.? At least one of them is going to slash prices and abandon ship if their inventory isn't moving.

Looking forward to see what Amazon comes up with!

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Parser   8/29/2011 7:41:18 PM
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While HP moving out of tablets' market was a surprise so is Amazon possibly entering this market. Amazon is uniquely well position due to large customer base for Kindle and name brand recognition. The question is how much software can subsidize hardware and is it leagal? That move by Amazon will be very interesting. 

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DennisQ   9/1/2011 3:17:40 PM
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I previously speculated that Amazon's tablet would be around $349, but now I'm starting to second guess myself!

After reading about Lenovo's sub-$200 tablet, I'm beginning to lean towards Amazon perhaps introducing a tablet for the magical price point of $199.

And even if they don't go down THAT low, I think this Lenovo product leads me to believe that something in the $200-$300 range is quite likely.

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JADEN   8/29/2011 10:39:59 PM
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With recent reports, there is an indication that the Amazon Kindle’s price is much cheaper than iPad. Taking into account the current economic situation, many consumers do not want to spend $500 to buy a tablet, the price advantage will help the popularity of the Amazon tablet.

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Kindle vs iPad
mario8a   8/30/2011 12:04:55 AM
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Hello

Regardless of price range, APPLE can't be beaten for their distribution channel and their low cost on manufacturing.

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saranyatil   8/30/2011 9:55:02 AM
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mario8a,

As you rightly pointed out Apple can't be beaten. The user interface that Apple products offer can't be experienced in any other products.

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Adeniji Kayode   8/30/2011 12:32:07 PM
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@saranyatil,

you are right and this is one of the edge of Apple over others- very user frendly.

 

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Mr. Roques   8/30/2011 10:07:13 AM
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Isn't it too soon for them to enter a price war? It's a relatively new market.

How can Amazon compete with that? What are the selling points of the kindle? Cheap, extremely long battery, light, etc. Can they create a "pimped" kindle that can compete with the iPad? They have good amount of content but Apple is clearly above all.

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Whither Kindle Reader?
kdawson   8/30/2011 10:22:09 AM
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What becomes of the current Kindle line if Amazon introduces a cheap(-ish) tablet? Do they drop Kindle Reader prices still further and make it the entry-level prouct? Do they deprecate it and put all the eggs in the Kindle Tablet basket?

A company's willingness to cannibalize its own products for a new market is one indicator or its likely staying power. Bezos has the cojones to do that, as did Jobs.

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HM   8/30/2011 12:10:35 PM
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Well said Dawson

But now that Jobs has quit. Is Bezos going to win?

I think few days back I read in news that when HP sold their obsoleted tablets for $99 it almost topped the sales.

I would still say Apple Ipad has the edge. let us wait and watch.

 

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Ms. Daisy   8/30/2011 3:02:34 PM
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Mr Roques:

"Pimped" up or not, the sale of kindles will go up if Amazon is able to pull off the price, content, and apps close to the ipad functionality. Amazon has the commerce to compete, and teaming up with Googles android wil boost both compnies sales. Add going to the developing countries with a comparable tablet at lower price will certainly put a dent into Apples dorminance at least.

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TaimoorZ   8/30/2011 5:51:56 PM
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So far Kindle has only been an e-book reader and is yet to come alive as a proper tablet. If the rumors about it being Android based is true, then it will have to compete with so many other Andrioid based tablets in the market such as Samsung Galaxy, Motorolla Xoom and Dell Streak before it comes close to competing with Apple. The tablet market is becoming rather saturated and any new player will face tough competition. However, given Kindle's success as an e-book reader, it might win over a certain section of consumers who are looking for tablets primarily for e-book reading.

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Susan Fourtané   8/31/2011 6:37:53 AM
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"Add going to the developing countries with a comparable tablet at lower price will certainly put a dent into Apples dorminance at least."

Ms. Daisy, 

A tablet in the line of offering as much similarity to the iPad as possible with the benefit of a lower price would definitely have a strong impact in the mearket. Now, what do you think it would happen if Apple one sunny morning decides to lower the price of its iPad just as a good experiment? Let's say Apple lowers the price of the previous iPad models when launching the iPad 3? 

-Susan 




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Ms. Daisy   8/31/2011 9:29:20 AM
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Susan:

It will be a great delight to see the price of ipad3 come down, but it is not likely. For purpose of argument, the competition will now be between the e-readers and the ipad enthusiasts. Apple and Amazon will now have to compete for those who are either new to the two or just plain frugal and do not need all the frills that ipad has.

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Himanshugupta   8/31/2011 10:06:07 AM
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I read an interesting article about the tablet war on The Economist. This article goes into some details about the price disparity and consumer psychology. It seems not only Amazon but Barnes&Noble's Nook can become a competitor to iPad. Amazon is also entering into cloud service and is providing 5 GB of data storage for free for music collection. So, it seems that Apple will face some competition in coming times.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2011/08/tablet-computers

 

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Mr. Roques   9/30/2011 8:00:16 PM
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Well, the current Kindle is not in the same league as any tablet. It's a book reader with very limited apps.

I don't know how many people use their tablets to actually read books (exclusively), but from what I've experienced angry birds is doing pretty well with the iPad!

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Kindle Vs. ipad
Anna young   8/30/2011 8:11:11 PM
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Amazon is uniquely positioned. Its got the muscle to compete on price slashing war. I think for Amazon to succeed in this tablets price war, then Amazon must be prepared to produce a device close to ipad. Bolaji, I agree, "price war is inevitable". This will certainly  be interesting to watch  and equally favourable for the consumers too should this happens.

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electronics862   8/30/2011 11:51:48 PM
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I feel both of them have their own strengths. Which one we want to get all depends on what we want to do..

 

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Its about time somebody challenged Apple..
tech4people   8/31/2011 2:49:22 AM
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Guys,

Was I the only one who was sick and tired of all analysts consistently going Ga-Ga over Apple???

Its about time somebody stepped up to the plate and challenged the Cupertino Giant.

I was looking through some trends and was amazed.

Together Dell,HP and Acer control 45% of the PC market in the US.

HP has now announced that they are looking at exiting the business entirely.

Acer announced major losses(& job losses this Quarter).

That leaves just Dell among the OEMs to take on Apple.

Its about time these guys got their acts together into an area as critical as Tablet computing(especially if they want to stand up and be counted here).

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a price war will not hurt only Apple. If Amazon enters the tablet market with devices that are much cheaper than the iPad, this will also hurt other contenders for its market share. Consumers will be the biggest winners here, but component and contract manufacturers should brace for a bruising squeeze

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Ashish.

 

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Kindle Tablet
elctrnx_lyf   8/31/2011 2:41:47 PM
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It would be interesting to see Amazon bringing out a new tablet on to market. This shouldn't be like a simple kid on the block. This tablet should have Android and equal performance hardware like ipad. I do not think they can have too low prices but a 100$ below ipad could help.

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Barbara Jorgensen   8/31/2011 2:44:35 PM
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Didn't see that one coming...still think of Kindle as an e-reader. I've also read that with some downlaodable software a Kindle can gain much of the same functionailty of an iPad. So it makes sense this could happen, but I wonder about the support infrastructre Amazon provides. For better or worse, Apple still supports its products really well.

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stochastic excursion   9/1/2011 3:53:32 PM
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True, and raises the question of whether an "Amazon Store" might be in the works along the lines of the Apple stores.  Now may not be the time for Amazon to open storefronts for their devices in California.  The sales/use tax dispute surrounding Amazon has led to a bill to limit the ballot initiative process.

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electronics862   8/31/2011 8:06:44 PM
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Kindle and iPad should both be financial successes. But competition between the two will only get fiercer as the market for e-readers and tablet computers heats up...

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t.alex   9/2/2011 10:58:58 AM
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Amazon might make itself different from Apple and other android tablets, thanks to its strong cloud-based services. However, the device itself will not be any better than iPad.

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Inside Amazon Tablet
_hm   9/4/2011 9:33:27 PM
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What will be Amazon's innovative contribution? It should not be very difficult to understand consumer need and innovate new unique features. What processor will they use - will it be MIPS or ARM? Is Amazon interested in RIM takeover. It will help them in tablet market.

 

 



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