Apple, Facebook Panned in Greenpeace Report

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elctrnx_lyf
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All against apple .. but do they care?
elctrnx_lyf   2/8/2012 10:18:07 AM
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I think apple may not really care about this as long as people love their products. I still wonder if there is any tablet that can beat an ipad or id there is any phone that can beat iphone. Only their products talk !!!!

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jbond   2/8/2012 12:14:28 PM
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It seems like Apple and Facebook are getting hit from everybody because of their size and constant media coverage. There are plenty of companies out there doing things much worse than these two, but going after high profile companies always brings media attention.

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Apple seems to do a lot - you can't make everyone happy
chazzmoney   2/8/2012 12:58:44 PM
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The MacBook laptops are the greenest laptops produced.  Apple reduces the manufacturing energy required and the carbon footprint of its devices every year.  Apple is building a solar power facility to power its data centers for iCloud.  Even Apple gift cards are made out of recycleable or compostable bio-plastic.

I don't think Greenpeace would be happy unless they were put in charge of Apple's cash horde...  Which would be a disaster for everyone involved.

Either that or they just want the media attention.


http://www.apple.com/environment/

http://www.recenttechnews.com/apple-green-energy-from-solar-power-plants.html



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Pleasing environmentalists
Barbara Jorgensen   2/8/2012 1:42:25 PM
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It seems Apple may have a technological problem in addition to being bashed by the media. Battery life of iProducts is notoriously short. The better performance of the iProds means battery depletion, and battery depletion means more frequent charging. Apple is not alone in this dilemma--better performing smart phones have the same drawback.

There are also two distinct aspects to a company's greening--its products and its in-house performance. Apple may well be building enviro-friendly facilities--I wonder if that should offset their product shortcomings (per Greenpeace. iFans love their products).

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software's environmental footprint
stochastic excursion   2/8/2012 3:39:42 PM
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I thought software was especially minimal in its environmental footprint.  Especially the cloud services that Facebook provides would seem to be devoid of environmental impact.

I'll have to take a closer look at how Greenpeace goes about ranking offenders.  It's been a long time since they made news dodging the French navy, as they staged a direct action against nuclear bomb testing.

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Re: Apple seems to do a lot - you can't make everyone happy
Hospice_Houngbo   2/8/2012 3:41:03 PM
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@chazzmoney 

Wow! Reading your comment, it seems that Apple is the greenest company on earth? Hmm, See this 2011 Green Rankings and you will change your mind. Your greenest Apple is ranked 50th among 500 US ranked companies.

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FLYINGSCOT   2/8/2012 4:06:08 PM
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I think Greenpeace does us all a big favor by continually harassing the world's largest companies.  It is a useful way to keep check on these megalithic companies.

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Re: Apple seems to do a lot - you can't make everyone happy
chazzmoney   2/8/2012 4:37:49 PM
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@Hospice_Houngbo

It isn't that Apple is the greenest company on earth - rather its that Greenpeace makes it sound like they aren't doing anything / don't care at all.

Using your referenced link, Apple is ranked 50th out of a list of 500 companies - so they are one of the top 10% greenest companies...  meaning 90% of companies do less / care less.

I support Greenpeace and their actions, but this just feels like a media grab.  Go after the big polluters who actually don't care.

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Confused Greenpeace
_hm   2/8/2012 9:06:22 PM
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In recent time greenpeace is making quite confusing and political remarks. Perhaps, Apple may be far too advanced for them to understand concept of gree technology. People, soon avoid noticing greenpeace comments.

 

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saranyatil   2/9/2012 12:04:23 AM
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Yeah it can be considered in that fashion, Big companies are getting advertised freely and it helps to understand their activities and product details too.

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