Saving Nokia: Telecoms to the Rescue?

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Dave Sasson
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Don't Count Microsoft Out Just Yet...
Dave Sasson   4/23/2012 7:57:44 PM
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Hi Bolaji, I wouldn't count Microsoft out in the smart phone market.  I have heard very positive feedback on their latest Windows Phone OS.  Just like in the browser wars, they weren't the first to get to market, but they dominated in time.

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Re: Don't Count Microsoft Out Just Yet...
Rich Krajewski   4/23/2012 10:19:13 PM
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So, Microsoft is, like, the underdog?

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Re: Don't Count Microsoft Out Just Yet...
Bolaji Ojo   4/24/2012 12:21:38 AM
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Yes, indeed. Microsoft is the underdog in the operating systems markket. That, at lease is the impression. However, how could Microsoft be the underdog in a plot where it holds no power except for its own inability.

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Bolaji Ojo   4/24/2012 12:35:59 AM
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I absolutey agree.

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Rich Krajewski   4/24/2012 1:21:55 AM
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I understand there will be a series of movies about the Lumia, similar to Tron. That might help.

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Re: Don't Count Microsoft Out Just Yet...
Adeniji Kayode   4/24/2012 5:38:49 AM
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That sound a bit smart too.

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Re: Third eco system
Anna young   4/24/2012 7:07:29 AM
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If Verizon certainly support a third eco system as Francis Shammo hinted , that will be good for Microsoft and Nokia.

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Jay_Bond   4/24/2012 1:18:14 PM
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I think that Microsoft needs to be having serious talks with Verizon and they need to look at bringing some "wow" to their OS. If they can bring in something that draws people away from either having an Android or Apple, there will be a lot of future business. Many people don't like the fact that there is a duopoly, and this is the move that could help Nokia become a major player again.

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syedzunair   4/24/2012 2:41:46 PM
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I agree, the only way Nokia is getting out of trouble is by making sure that their choice of mobile OS platform gets accepted by the masses. It seems to be a far fetched goal but it can happen based on new interface and features being introduced.

Similarly, apps also play a key role in determining the sales of smartphones. If there are plenty of free apps available people will generally be pulled towards the smartphone.  

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elctrnx_lyf   4/25/2012 2:33:05 AM
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Atlast there is some good news to Nokia, if they are ready to be suppliers for Verizon and T-Mobile at little less premium they would surely regain the market. Even the operators would be glad if ther is competetion among different manufacturers which could bring down the dominance of the mobile makers and brign more profits to operators.

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Bolaji Ojo   4/25/2012 10:27:23 PM
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Consumers can accept Windows OS. I believe they are not wedded to any particular platform, though the success of Apple's iPhone may challenge this view. Google's Android came from nowhere to become the leading smartphone operating system. It is not impossible for Windows OS to gain market share. The company just has to be seen to be serious about it. I don't see the marketing from Microsoft supporting the platform.

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syedzunair   4/26/2012 12:13:17 PM
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@Bolaji:

Yes, consumers can accept in new OS but it depends on a few things like marketing efforts, range of apps based on that platform, the ease of app development, the hardware vendors that support the new OS etc. 

If all goes well like it did for Android, the Windows OS may get popular soon. 

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Bolaji Ojo   4/26/2012 12:18:32 PM
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Windows OS just needs more push from Microsoft, which doesn't appear to be putting a lot of marketing efforts behind it.

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syedzunair   4/26/2012 1:56:36 PM
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I hope they start marketing it soon. We'll have to wait and see if it makes ripples in a market that is already being dominated by the iOS and Android. 

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Hospice_Houngbo   4/29/2012 9:53:49 PM
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It is quite surprising that Microsoft is not marketing the Windows OS the way it should. This may be signs that even the company doesn't trust the product that much as a game changer.

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syedzunair   5/2/2012 1:42:51 PM
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It is surprising that MS is not marketing Windows OS but I am sure it doesn't mean they don't trust their product. Probably they are waiting for the right time and with linkages with hardware manufacturers they will soon come out with a bang. Atleast, I hope so. 

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tirlapur   5/12/2012 4:14:23 AM
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Google's Android came from nowhere to become the leading smartphone operating system.

@Bolaji, one of the things that might be worrying Google is the announcement by Samsung that the "company is working on merging its Bada mobile operating system with the open-source Tizen operating system". This clearly shows that Samsung is not comfortable using Android and in the long run they would want to develop their own OS. Nokia wont face this problem because Microsoft doesn't own its own mobile business.

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Samsung OS?
Wale Bakare   5/12/2012 10:01:46 AM
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Its market growth is playing major impact to Samsung success. And it feels creating own software application that would enable its products run on would not cause any harm. If eventually Samsung abandons Android OS what scenario would that create to smartphone market?

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tirlapur   5/12/2012 11:43:54 AM
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If eventually Samsung abandons Android OS what scenario would that create to smartphone market?

@Wale Bakare, that would create  lot of confusion to the end users because they will have multiple OS to choose from. Android will slowly loose its market share just like the symbian lost its market.

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t.alex   5/4/2012 3:04:26 AM
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Apps are critical. However other than some preinstalled apps in the phone, i think people would not mind paying a few dollars for really quality apps if there are.

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Windows 8 based Mobile
Jacob   4/25/2012 5:42:33 AM
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Microsoft is going to release windows 8 and one of the major features of windows 8 is the OS component is same across all devices. I mean the same light weighted copy can be used across both Smartphone, laptop, desktop etc. If Nokia is planning to update the mobile platform with windows 8, I think they can gain a better momentum in Smartphone arena.

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syedzunair   4/25/2012 1:25:12 PM
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@Jacob:

You've got a very valid point here. If Nokia continues to establish its linkages with MS for its mobile platforms they will have a chance to re-capture the lost market. 

I still have doubts that windows 8 will have phenomenal sales (as a mobile OS) but nevertheless it will provide Nokia with an option to compete with the other manufacturers. 

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_hm   4/25/2012 10:00:06 PM
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How much will be charge from Nokia for its new smart phone? It may be lower by only around 20%. So saving may not be that atractive. But I wish people like new Nokia phone.

 

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Bolaji Ojo   4/25/2012 10:24:55 PM
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Jay, The missing component in Nokia's efforts to push the Lumia is that Microsoft does not seem to be pushing its Windows operating system with telecom carriers in at least the same way Google has pushed Android. I believe Microsoft still has to do some heavy lifting and marketing to support Windows OS, perhaps even pay carriers the way it agreed to pay Nokia or give them some form of compensation that makes the deal tempting for them. Until this is done, Nokia's Lumia and other Windows-OS supporting phones will continue to suffer.

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prabhakar_deosthali   4/25/2012 12:02:02 PM
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More than what OS is Embedded into it , I think the success of Nokia in smart phone domain will mainly depend upon the capability of Nokia to show that it is still a stable brand to go with.  If people have already lost the faith in the brand there is a little chance that the customers will turn back to Nokia.

But  diversion of support by telecom companies away from Apple will definitely have the desired effect for Nokia in increaing its market share.

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JADEN   4/29/2012 7:44:18 AM
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It is the carriers that make Apple what it is today.  As Verizon is cheering Nokia Windows phones, this is an opportunity for Nokia to succeed.

 

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Hospice_Houngbo   4/29/2012 9:49:25 PM
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@JADEN:

"It is the carriers that make Apple what it is today."

That is true, But still the quality of Apple's products made it easy for carriers to sell them. If Nokia Windows phones are good, carriers will certainly back them up.

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tirlapur   5/12/2012 4:02:46 AM
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Suddenly, I am beginning to think the future for Nokia may not be that gloomy after all.

@Bolaji, I totally agree with you. I feel Nokia provides some of the best hardware features on its phone. Even Siri says Nokia Lumia 900 is best smartphone ever. 

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Wale Bakare   5/12/2012 10:18:32 AM
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Even Siri says Nokia Lumia 900 is best smartphone ever.

I believe, the tiny number of professionals know inside and out of smartphone components. What about the substantial number of consumers ? Whom i think lager percentage of them like to jump in the bandwagon. Why not be on the market watchout for at least Q3/Q4 of 2012 to decide if best fits Nokia.






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