Who Benefits From Microsoft Surface Debut?

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lbacker   6/26/2012 1:52:48 PM
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We are all drooling for more details about surface.  With the lack of facts many of us are trying to fill in the lines.

 

Perhaps this is the way it was planned.  The Microsft event may have been a trial balloon.  If so it was successful.  What better way to ping your potential users to find out where the issues are?

It was early enough to allow reaction time for final polishing of the design, setting the prices, and developing marketting plans.

Most of the flack has been directed against the RT version.  The laptop user response to the MP-08 version has been positive.

This will be a hit with the workers needing a light compact MS Office platform. 

The facebook, electronic book, and social networking market will require lots of work.

This is really two, very different products.  An ultralight laptop and a tablet.  Apple is already established in the tablet market.

Sales over the internet is the way to go.  Brick and mortar Stores for electronic devices are disappearing.  Direct sales by Microsoft and use of EBAY and AMAZON should work nicely.  I would limit physical store sales to the big box retailers: Sams, Costco, Walmart, and Target, etc.

Feedback has been mostly positive, with attached wish lists.  Microsoft would be wise to listen and polish the real debut.

They need an out of the gate winner.  They have the money, the talent, and the time to make it work.  I hope this is an XP and not a Milenium or Vista.

I am delaying buying any tablet or slate until I see how this one turns out.

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Re: Possible Microsoft strategy
Bolaji Ojo   6/26/2012 4:19:34 PM
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lbacker, I like your assessment. First, the company indeed announced two products, an upright laptop and a tablet. Second, the product is not here yet so we are free to speculate and whip up opinion and speculation, helping to drive interest ahead of actual debut.

This strategy worked for Apple and it's being effectively used by Microsoft. Finally, many of us who don't already have a tablet PC but are looking will hold off until the Surface hits the market. That will put a damper on competing devices (maybe not the iPad). I didn't want to say this before but I will admit I am waiting until I see the Surface to buy a PC slate.

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pocharle   6/26/2012 9:15:14 PM
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That's good to hear. I hope MSFT can solidify itself as a competitor with Apple in all realms. It will bring back the fever rush that existed when the two giants were battling it out in the mid-90s. I hope it works out for them...

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rmerritt   6/27/2012 11:00:05 AM
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I agree it would be good to see more competition in tablets.

Frankly I think Samsung has been the best and fastest to market competitor so far with its Galaxy Tab that was pretty good if a little clunkly in the sw.

There is plenty of room to choose unique hardware and write unique sw but I think the industry has been slow to deliver a wide range of options

 

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Re: Possible Microsoft strategy
pocharle   6/27/2012 1:29:56 PM
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I think it's because for the most part, most of the platforms are identical fo rthe time being. Maybe within the next few iterations, someone will come up with some new innovation that makes a huge splash.

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elctrnx_lyf   6/27/2012 2:51:52 PM
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If both intel and arm can be pleased with surface then it would be a great success for Microsoft. As you explained the enterprise is the easy target for Microsoft.

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pocharle   6/28/2012 9:01:39 PM
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Pleased is an interesting word to use. I think success is a better way to describe what they're after. And by success, I mean financially!

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Re: Possible Microsoft strategy
Hospice_Houngbo   6/27/2012 8:17:08 PM
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@pocharles,

I think that innovation can not go beyond what we could accomplish with our laptop computer. In the long run, the difference between laptops and tablets will just be about the size. I am sure most laptops (or computer displays) will have touch screen capabilities. 

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pocharle   6/28/2012 9:06:27 PM
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Agreed to a point. But it's also about convenience too. If a tablet and laptop side by side do the same thing and are approximately the same size, it might just feel better to go with the tablet because it looks cooler to walk around with nowadays than a laptop (an not everyone has one... yet like laptop). It's sort of liek a status symbol of sorts.

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Anna young   6/29/2012 6:53:02 AM
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@Pocharle, I think this is a strategic move on Microsoft's part to enter the tablet market and a good one. And I hope it succeed. I'm of the view that this will certainly stand up to the hype having read the review. Like you said, I hope it impact the market significantly to bring back the rush we witnessed in the 90s between the two companies (will it?). Certainly Microsoft surface will see a return on investment. The question is if surface tablet succeeds, can Microsoft keep up the momentum?.

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pocharle   6/30/2012 10:41:09 AM
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I hope they can. Because the  competition will not slow down for them. They better be prepared to continue any positive momentum FAST!

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Anna young   6/30/2012 12:49:58 PM
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@Pocharle, Yes, so do I. It'll be in Microsoft's best interest to keep up the momentum anyway.....

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pocharle   6/30/2012 3:44:39 PM
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I'm pretty sure they want to catach up with Apple & Google's stock ticker too!

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Microsoft's strategy
rmerritt   6/26/2012 7:33:27 PM
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The NYT had an excellent story Monday on Surface.

It's good reporting suggests both Microsoft and HP failed to get competitive Windows Anything tablets to market working more or less together and frustrated MS execs decided to go it alone.

They suggest if OEMs pick up the Surface design, or the pace of their own innovations, Msoft may staep aside. But that's a big if.

 

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Bolaji Ojo   6/27/2012 7:36:25 AM
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Just as you noted, it's a big "if" for Microsoft to step aside if HP, Dell and other OEMs get active in the tablet segment with products that are competitive against the iPad. I don't see it happening. Microsoft didn't step aside in the gaming market and there are no reasons for it to do this in the tablet market. You have to drive your own fortune and that's what Microsoft is doing.

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A first...
Barbara Jorgensen   6/26/2012 10:02:23 PM
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It'll be a first--sorta--if Msoft works the bugs out of the product before the launch. OK, I'm still bitter about Vista. I'm game if the product is good enough...

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Arm or Intel
_hm   6/26/2012 10:26:33 PM
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Will it be Arm or Intel processor? 

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Bolaji Ojo   6/27/2012 5:45:45 AM
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Intel and ARM will both supply the processors for Microsoft Surface.

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prabhakar_deosthali   6/27/2012 3:38:14 AM
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By the time MS fixes all the bugs in Windows RT/8, the customers will have already moved away. 

Sounds sarcastic but looking as Windows history , my fears are likely to come true.

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Hopeful
FLYINGSCOT   6/27/2012 6:29:45 AM
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I cannot imagine MS will dent Apple's business but I sure hope the Surface is received well as it will be good for the whole industry.

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Bolaji Ojo   6/27/2012 7:33:05 AM
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Flyingscott, Any new product, however it matches against the competition, will dent the market share of the leading device. In this case, remember there are people who don't want to be a part of the Apple family and are holding back on purchasing a tablet. Companies like Microsoft will also have to sell their products at a lower price than the iPad because of Apple's leading position. That will eventually erode its No. 1 position and drive down its market share.

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Himanshugupta   6/27/2012 11:00:41 AM
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Bolaji, will the entry of Google in tablet market make sense. Google has stayed away from the high profit consumer hardware till now. But there are rumors about the Google table. 

Android has quite sucessfully eroded the iPhone's market however Windows has not be able to make any impact. Will MS be more cautious about the tablets?

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TaimoorZ   6/27/2012 8:48:56 PM
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@himanshugupta: If Google does enter the tablet market with it's own hardware, it can certainly take advantage of Android for success. For instance, it can restrict the new Android releases to be only available on Google's tablet and not any other tablet. This will force the users into buying the Google tablet.

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Intro of Surface
Eldredge   6/27/2012 9:16:20 AM
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There will certainly be winners and losers from the intrduction of Surface, although it's haed to predict who will be in which column. A lot may depend on the product features and acceprtance. It certainly highlights, however, how competitive the industry is.

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Hospice_Houngbo   6/27/2012 8:30:42 PM
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@Eldredge,

"There will certainly be winners and losers from the intrduction of Surface,",

The Surface has a bright future as it is designed as a ready-for-business device with its embedded physical and virtual keyboards as well as the built-in usb port. I don't really think that Microsoft will ever regret that  move. Let's not forget that Windows is still the number one OS used in the enterprise and Windows enthusiats will be happy to own a tablet that will offer almost the same features that a conventional laptop or a desktop PC can offer.

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Eldredge   6/28/2012 6:37:44 AM
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I agree - approaching the capabilities of a laptop will provide provide a significant advantage that will be attractive to many consumers.

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Anna young   6/29/2012 7:04:39 AM
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@Hospice, I agree this might just be IT THING for Microsoft again. But Can this truly break Apple? What's your view?

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Hospice_Houngbo   6/29/2012 10:41:20 AM
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@Anna,

" But Can this truly break Apple? What's your view?",

Obviously no tablet or smatphone has been able to break Apple so far. The Microsoft Surface may not be an exception. But when we talk about tablets we will no longer think of the iPad. Some days ago I was using my iPad and a lady who apparently was impressed engaged me in the following conversation :

The lady: Is that an iPad?

Me: Yes it is

The lady: What brand it is?

Me: What brand? Oh, it is an Apple tablet

And she carried on telling me how she would love to have one, how interesting it might be to use it... 

My feeling was that for her a tablet = iPad. I hope people will understand the difference with more competive products release.

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Anna young   6/29/2012 12:45:16 PM
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@Hospice, Interesting you said that. I suppose ipad is more popular than tablet pc it's easy to mix the two. I don't own either, my laptop pc works well for me,  but I have sampled a ipad at my local PC world retail outlet - thanks to my teenage boys who are gizmo freaks. Again for some it'll take time getting to know the difference.....

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Pro and cons of Surface
Himanshugupta   6/27/2012 10:55:46 AM
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I think that before starting the guess game we should really look at the pro and cons of Surface. We should compare the surface with other tablets from Apple, RIM, HP, HTC etc to find out what makes this tablet unique and winning formula. The biggest hurdle for MS will be the pricing and MS has already clarified that the pricing will be similar to iPad. Loading tablet with just Office suit is not going to win hearts.

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TaimoorZ   6/27/2012 8:52:11 PM
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 "..before starting the guess game we should really look at the pro and cons of Surface. We should compare the surface with other tablets from Apple, RIM, HP, HTC etc to find out what makes this tablet unique and winning formula."

@Himanshugupta: I agree. I think the biggest success factor for Microsoft would be if they have a Windows based tablet which integrates seamlessly with their desktops and laptops. It should give Microsoft a slight edge over it's competitors.


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tirlapur   6/28/2012 2:53:04 AM
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 I think the biggest success factor for Microsoft would be if they have a Windows based tablet which integrates seamlessly with their desktops and laptops.

@TaimoorZ, I totally agree with you. I think Microsoft tablet's compatiblity to microsoft tools such as MS office will give this tablet a huge advantage over other tablets. 

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Jacob   7/2/2012 7:24:17 AM
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If there is compatibility between Laptop and tablets, then obliviously the laptop/desktop sales may comes down. Actually that's not the factor, W8 is going to be the key factor, where enterprise is eagerly looking for.

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stochastic excursion   6/28/2012 1:52:54 AM
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Microsoft is staying true to longstanding practice.  Now that the iPad is in its third release, the MS camp is convinced this is a business challenge that won't go away.

As with GUI displays, Microsoft is emulating an existing offering, but matching Apple's pricing is a new and seemingly uncompetitive move for MS.  This is even more questionable when we see Google releasing its Nexus tablet at a price of $199.  In terms of underscoring its first-mover status, one of the main beneficiaries would have to be Apple with this turn of events.

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MS tablet in higher price band
Jacob   7/2/2012 7:21:22 AM
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Bolaji, I don't think there is any winner or loser because surface prices are fixed like that. According to the early news, they are fixing the prices between $699 and $800 for various models, which is almost equivalent or greater than Ipad price. That means they are targeting only enterprise level customers, which contributes only less than half of the total tablet sales.



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