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Re: sounds reasonable
tech4people   1/10/2015 10:10:55 AM
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Waqas,

Have to agree wholeheartedly with your opinion here.

Pakistan's Government may not see filtering of Youtube as a major Priority[Blocking it entirely is a much cheaper option] and the very fact that as you have mentioned clearly (People have gotten used to Youtube block) means its not really a big deal.

As long as alternatives exist(which are easily accessible) ;The loss of Youtube is not such a big deal for the People of Pakistan.

So which is the favored alternative to Youtube in Pakistan today?

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Re: sounds reasonable
WaqasAltaf   12/31/2014 7:45:58 PM
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Tech4people, yes I saw the video. Had Pakistan's government allocated resources to filter out and banning access to those videos rather than just Youtube, things could have been managed. Now our people have become so used too of not having Youtube that they don't discuss much over it anymore.

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Re: sounds reasonable
tech4people   12/26/2014 8:23:59 AM
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Waqas,

So did you finally get to see the Video?

I am so GLAD!

Its hilariously Funny!!!

Typically Banning stuff because of Political Differences happens largely in Anarchist/Authoritarian Societies-Where one person/Party controls all the Levers of Power.

I have no idea why Pakistan's Government decided to ban Youtube but still feel if there was a better way to manage the situation I would recommend that way instead.

 

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Re: sounds reasonable
WaqasAltaf   12/21/2014 6:31:56 AM
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Tech4people

Lolz. Banning access to things based on political differences is a completely different story and I do not support it in any case. And yes, I don't think Pakistan government has time and resources nor that interest in placing people to specifically monitor Youtube videos.

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Re: sounds reasonable
tech4people   11/29/2014 1:14:02 PM
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Waqas,

I respect your sentiments entirely .

You can always search online for Jimmy Kimmel's ipHone Video Spoof.

Maybe you can find it on Dailymotion or some other Video Sharing Site which is'nt banned in Pakistan?

I am not surprised that Youtube (aka Google) denied your Government's request.

For way too long now all these Tech Companies have behaved as if they are above the Law;its only now that (thanks to EUs sustained pressure on them);that they are changing their behavior accordingly).

I am aware of many other Tools which can block Specific Videos on Youtube;but the issue with those tools is that you actually need a full-time administrative team tracking the Videos online /Complaints as they arise so that they can block them immediately.

For a country which may have limited Resources It can be a little like Whack a Mole. LOL!!!

If you study the Chinese Great firewall(otherwise known as the Golden Shield Project);it works on precisely the Same Model.


They have people(about 300,000 at last) who scour every single website which is visible inside Mainland China(including Blogs like weibo) and make sure absolutely nothing(and I mean Nothing) Negative to the Communist Party can be visible to Mainland Chinese.


More Here-www.businessinsider.com/chinas-50-cent-party-2014-10

So this is how the Chinese generate All those Jobs? LOL!!!

 

 

 

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Re: sounds reasonable
WaqasAltaf   11/29/2014 10:50:54 AM
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nimatha, there are a lot of social network and entertainment websites on the internet. Dailymotion and a lot of other websites are not bad too when it comes to video streaming portals. So I don't think anyones future will get affected.

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Re: sounds reasonable
WaqasAltaf   11/29/2014 10:38:39 AM
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Tech4people, well initially the government contacted youtube for banning the videos but it denied. I am sure they would have considered the option of banning specific videos but may be they decided to bycott the organization as a whole. In the past few months, legislators have debated on this topic but ultimate decision was to continue the restrictions.

In my opinion, videos that offend any community whether religious or ethnic should be restricted on public forums. So although I am sad for not being able to access the youtube library, partially I am for restricting.

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tech4people   11/23/2014 10:19:06 AM
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Nimantha,

Frankly speaking I have no clue why Youtube was banned in Pakistan;so I would refrain from making any comments either for or against it;atleast untill I get to the bottom of why exactly the Government banned it there.

Its a well-known fact that various Governments use Tools of Social Media to foment unrest among populations Globally.

All it takes is for someone to pass around fake Doctored pictures or Videos of Someone insulting someone else and you have  a riot on your hands.

This is the primary reason why someone level of Censorship is desirable in today's extremely volatile world(especially when you have to deal with many Young & Unemployed people).

Instead of the Government doing it-Lets say a Parent decided to Censor some websites/Social Media tools which they felt were'nt appropriate for their Children;Would you be okay with that?

Same Philosophy applies here.

 

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nimantha.d   11/23/2014 3:44:21 AM
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@tech4people: Well Im totally against in banning technology for anything because it's the future and when you block it what will happen to the future generation of that country ? Their future too will get blocked isn't it ? 

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Re: sounds reasonable
tech4people   11/22/2014 11:01:16 AM
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Waqas,

Too Bad!!!

Why did Pakistan Ban Youtube entirely? Does'nt it make more sense to ban offending videos as and when they arise??

Can't you use TOR or something to view the Video??

Believe me it will be worth it.

If you want(you will have to send me your Email for that);I can email you the Video.

 

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