Memorial Day Thoughts for the Electronics Industry

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry
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Re: expectations and consequences
Hailey Lynne McKeefry   5/31/2013 7:40:25 PM
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It's true that manufacturers need to vote with their feet and only work with organizations with a good reputation. Two adages come to mind. First, caveat emptor. Second, you get what you pay for. 

I am glad to hear that therea re organizatoins like yours that are willing pay a better margin to the partner in order to get verified quality. that's a path that is going to lead to a good place...and to long and strong relationships.

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   5/31/2013 7:38:18 PM
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@Prabshakar, this is a serious problem...and the only answer is to test and verify. You are right that building relationships with vendors is important, but after those relationships are established, it's equally good to keep testing the actual products for quality.

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Re: expectations and consequences
Rich Krajewski   5/31/2013 4:21:48 PM
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"They give us compete transparency and we allow them to make money"

You sound like someone I'd want to do business with. Keep up the good work. More power to you.

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expectations and consequences
MFGKING   5/31/2013 4:06:07 PM

There is no counterfeiting problem. There are people who are OK with selling counterfeits and there are people who are OK with buying counterfeits.

We have not received a counterfeit device in the past 5 years.

If you are receiving counterfeits from your suppliers and you continue to use those suppliers then you are OK with buying counterfeits.

If your supplier knows they are going to get reported to GIDEP and the IPR Center and then be disqualified. Then you are not going to get a counterfeit.

This might sound harsh but it isn't. We only use 1 open market supplier. They get 100% of our business and we allow them to make a healthy profit. It's been a win – win.  Neither side of the transaction wants to loose the relationship. They give us compete transparency and we allow them to make money. Good communication and a long standing trusted relationship takes time. Once clear expectations and consequences were established the counterfeit issue completely disappeared. 

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Re: For electronics and other industries too
hash.era   5/31/2013 10:42:41 AM
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@Mr.Roques: Good point, you cannot argue with them because it's the cheap one. If you want the original pay more and get it.       

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_hm   5/29/2013 6:44:35 PM
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It is not only supplier. It is also purchase in all organizations and engineers too. Everyone has some interest - e.g. finish project on time, with money budgeted etc. More education to all involved is also essential.

 

 

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Re: For electronics and other industries too
Mr. Roques   5/29/2013 5:07:15 PM
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Well, whenever you want low prices - you face the risk of suppliers offering cheap products, sometimes counterfeit products.

Can they vertically integrate? 

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Re: For electronics and other industries too
nimantha.d   5/29/2013 10:53:21 AM
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@Himanshugupta: Yes I also feel that but its impossible since there are many around the globe. I feel the fake numbers are much more higher than the originals. How to track them ?

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William K.   5/28/2013 8:44:21 PM
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In reality, solving the problem of counterfeit parts is a very big problem, since it is being done with the intention of doing damage, not merely to cheat and gain profit. It is an act of treason to sabotage military equipment, while it is a crime of larceny to do the same thing in the commercial world. 

The first thing is to realize the level and intent of the damage done by those who send counterfeit parts into military systems is to do military damage. Then we can understand the sort of people who are doing it, which provides a sense of what the problem is. But none of that gets rid of the bad parts, that much is just explaining the nature of the enemy.

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Tom Murphy   5/28/2013 7:11:40 PM
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Thanks Prabhakar. I think you're right.  The contract process for defense has been seriously flawed for decades. Often the military lacks the capability to assure compliance with specs.  To be sure, counterfeit parts represent a threat just as surely as a con man will cheat you out of your money.  But that is why we need to be on guard against fraud, isn't it. A fool and his money are soon parted, and let us admit that is true even when the "fool" is good ol' Uncle Sam.

Caveat emptor, Sam.

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