Germany's Nuclear Power Predicament

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William K.
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Germany's serious power problem
William K.   12/9/2011 7:57:09 PM
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Those enslaved by their fear are more pitifully enslaved than any other slaves. That is for certain. The fact is that slavery to fears is just as evil as any other kind of slavery, and probably just as damaging. I believe that all slavery is wrong. And I don't like fear very much either.

The very best choice would be to immediately switch off the power feeds from all of their nuclear power plants, so that the nation would be able to understand clearly what they are asking for. 

A rational approach would be an inspection of all of the atomic power plants, first, to make certain that they were in compliance with all of the applicable safety rules, and then, more importantly, to verify that there had not been any stupid mistakes made, because most of the problems that made the Japanese earthquake such a disaster were really stupid design errors, such as needing outside power for cooling water circulation, and not having the cooling system designed to allow gravity filling with seawater as a last choice cooling mode, and not having an adequate on site generating system that was adequate and operational. The average German high school student could verify as to if their power plants would be able to survive an earthquake.

One other question is how many earthquakes are there in German history? Where are the fault lines around the power plants?

Answering these questions should show if the fears are valid or totally groundless. 

I find myself wondering what sort of media monster was able to stir up that much irrational fear. Lets hope that the same opinion maker does not decide to point his country toward any other "solutions".

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Re: clean-tech way to future of energy
Eldredge   12/2/2011 8:38:48 AM
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@Bolaji - That's true - I'm sure they don't see the nuclear sector as a growth market going forward! Seems like they should be able to use their power generation expertise in other areas.

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jbond   12/2/2011 7:41:15 AM
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I completely disagree with such a drastic decision. This decision was made based solely on fear. The Japan disaster was horrible, but not a normal occurrence. Just like a plane crashing is horrible, but were not going to ground every plane and say no more flying. Nuclear power is one of the safest, cleanest and cheapest energy sources out there. If you want to make this disappear and replace it with greener energy, then put a plan in motion and get it going while still maintaining your current energy sources. Germany has not only put their country in a large predicament, they are going to now have to spend billions of dollars they weren't originally planning on spending.

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Bolaji Ojo   12/1/2011 9:52:04 PM
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_Hm, Siemens had no option but to get out of the nuclear energy market. It's main customers (the governments and electricity service providers in Europe) were getting out and closing nuclear facilities and the market in the rest of the world isn't really growing. Plus, the anti-nuclear energy forces in Europe are picketing Siemens' other business interests in Europe. The company had to pick a focus and the odds were stacked against nuclear energy.

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_hm   12/1/2011 5:54:44 PM
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Along with German government, Siemens also has closed or sold its nuclear industry unit. That was big part of Siemens.

 

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Jennifer Baljko   12/1/2011 3:04:00 PM
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Bolaji - Wonder how that news is going to be received in Georgia. I suspect we'll see a mix of news like this on a country by country basis, especially as coal-burning plants keep getting a bad wrap and renewable energy sources come online.  All countries will need a mix of energy sources; how else will demand be meet? Or maybe, that's the piece that's missing: How do we lower individual and corporate demand for energy?

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Bolaji Ojo   12/1/2011 2:48:01 PM
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Jennifer, Germany and a few other European nations may be exiting the nuclear market but the U.S. is getting ready for its newest nuclear reactors in decades. Today, Toshiba announced it would ship its "First Major Component for Nuclear Energy Project in U.S." for a plant in Georgia. Nuclear energy is still an option for some countries and companies like Toshiba are making money from supplying components to the industry. "One man's poison . . ."

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Jennifer Baljko   12/1/2011 11:44:53 AM
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FlyingScot - Good for the Scots. So Scotland's gov't is autonomous enough to do this, without relying on the UK's energy directive; the UK is building nuclear plants. (I ask because  I live in Catalonia, and I know the Catalans are moving ahead with various renewable plans, although I can't say if that's in align with the Spanish central govt's plan or not). If you have good links worth reading, please send them along. Thanks.

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Eldredge   12/1/2011 8:59:17 AM
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@Jacob - There may be another aspect to their actions as well. They probably have significant interest is selling nuclear-energy related hardware to other countries who still have interest in pursuing this alternative.

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FLYINGSCOT   12/1/2011 4:49:25 AM
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I also applaud Germany for dumping nuclear.  This can only be achieved by some hardship and this pain must be shared by all for the greater good.  I look forward to your article on UK plans.  If you look at Scotland's plan our government has pledged the following to  " meet an equivalent of 100% demand for electricity from renewable energy by 2020".

 




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