USPS Develops 'No Fly List' for Electronics

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Susan Fourtané
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Re: Is there evidence?
Susan Fourtané   6/6/2012 4:29:57 AM
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Anna, 

" Surely there's bound to be an option to packaging rather than ban their shipment altogether.  It doesn't sound a wise move."

No. There is always an option, if they want to find one. Changing the packaging seems to be the one that would help keep USPS and manufacturers in business. 

-Susan

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FLYINGSCOT   5/30/2012 7:39:31 AM
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I reckon the USPS dictate will not affect too many businesses (or indeed individuals) as there are many lower cost shippers available.  I was amazed recently how simple and cost effective it is to ship goods via online brokerage services.  

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Jay_Bond   5/30/2012 7:00:55 AM
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The report does highlight many issues within the USPS, but what I was getting to was the fact of having a Congressional oversight and needed Congressional approval to alter any neccesary changes to put the service in the black. While employee health care and pensions continue to plague many companies, the USPS does have a few short term fixes that could stop such serious loss of money, but still needs Congress to say okay.

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stochastic excursion   5/30/2012 12:53:19 AM
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In fairness, much of the postal service's red ink is actually a statutory reserve ($103 billion worth) mandated for the retirement of future employees.  Here's a recent report that really gets down into the weeds.

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USPS not flying Lithium Batteries
William K.   5/29/2012 10:00:41 PM
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So how long is it going to take for somebody to start making fake labels that identify products as perhaps "Nickle-metalHydride" or some such? And if the battery pack does not explode or burn up, who would ever know?

Of course it is already possible to pack them safely, but it does add a bit of weight. Fireproof bags and boxes have been around for a while, and it should not be that much of a challenge for the makers to figure out which ones would provide adequate protection against a destrucing battery pack.

Of course they do have the right to refuse to carry them, but they need to understand the actual level of risk in transporting the many batteries that don't explode.

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Anna young   5/29/2012 8:31:35 PM
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@_hm, I'm sure USPS is already feeling the impact of it's decision. I'm certain it won't take them long to reverse the move.

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Re: Is there evidence?
Anna young   5/29/2012 6:56:21 PM
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@Susan, the impact of this sort of ban is certainly significant for USPS who is observing the ban and for any other company who intends to join in the ban for that matter. I just wonder if there' some sort of an alternative method of packaging these items without the risk factor raised. Surely there's bound to be an option to packaging rather than ban their shipment altogether.  It doesn't sound a wise move.

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Hospice_Houngbo   5/29/2012 2:18:08 PM
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@jay_Bond:

I see. That is certainly not the best way fo them to avoid bankruptcy. We will see whether they will back off or not.

Thanks!

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Jay_Bond   5/29/2012 1:35:57 PM
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@Hospice, What I was reffering to regarding Congress was their overall say in the USPS operations. The USPS is hemmoraging billions of dollars. If they were a normal business, they would of been bankrupt and out of business. Congressional oversight has kept them from making crucial changes (no more Saturday deliveries and closures) that would save billions and possibly put the postal service in the black eventually. It would seem like developing a ban on batteries for overseas deliveries is going to cost them millions, and cause customers to use UPS and FedEx.

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Hospice_Houngbo   5/29/2012 1:28:57 PM
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@jay_bond:

My question is why would the Congress target USPS without compelling other shipping companies  to follow suit? Is there any reason to that?

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