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The Parts Are on the Way, but at What Cost?

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_hm
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Manufacture close to home
_hm   9/25/2012 7:14:15 PM
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Bring manufacturing close to home. Along with transportation, it will bring ten more advantages.

 

 

Himanshugupta
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Himanshugupta   9/26/2012 1:34:33 PM
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Rather than bringing manufacturing close to home, i will prefer either manufacturing at low cost destination or at home because either reduce logistic and supply chain simple or keep it at low cost. A middle way can be of little benefit.

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stochastic excursion   9/27/2012 12:29:12 AM
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Bringing manufacturing closer to where goods are purchased would involve effort, and involve a lot of urban planning.  Will phasing out the off-shoring logistics, with all its sunk costs, be more economical in the long run?  The numbers indecate that this may be true.

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Jennifer Baljko   9/27/2012 5:47:56 AM
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Stochastic - I agree with you... there's a lot of pre-planning and urban redevelopment work that needs to be done before manufacturing can come back in any significant way. Also, there has to be tax incentives in place to bring businesses back to certain cities, and a relatively skilled and reliable labor force to employ. Doing this pre-planning work will be expensive initially. However, there are many blighted neighborhoods and cities that once had a strong industrial base that could benefit from some sort of private-public collaboration to re-establish manufacturing. The big hurdle will be fighting the "not in my backyard" syndrome... will local residents want a big chip production facility  or a factory that makes metal casings for electronic devices down the street? Many hheavy industries were linked to health and environmnetal issues, and costs towns and companies a lot of money to clean up when they left before. Certainly there will people who won't want these factories back, or at least won't want them near their houses.

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stochastic excursion   9/27/2012 6:31:20 PM
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Inertia at all levels has to be faced, especially as our increasingly transient society makes involvement in local government less of a priority for ordinary citizens.  On the other hand, there have been advancements in the caliber of professionals responsible for planning the growth and change of communities.  I'm guilty of optimism here, but I think the few who are inspired may determine the course of change for the better on US shores.

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TaimoorZ   9/30/2012 1:16:52 AM
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" Many hheavy industries were linked to health and environmnetal issues, and costs towns and companies a lot of money to clean up when they left before"

@Jennifer: That's a very valid point. Unfortunately, when people are calculating the cost of a project or comparing two projects, they tend to ignore the social costs completely. In many cases, it may not just be an abstract cost - companies may have to pay for the damage to the environment out of their own pockets and that's a significant cost.

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Bolaji Ojo   9/26/2012 10:16:47 PM
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_hm, Sorry, a great deal of the manufacturing that's been transferred outside the United States and other Western nations isn't coming back but I do agree that high-end production may return as manufacturers consider their total cost, including logistics.

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Hospice_Houngbo   9/26/2012 11:33:14 PM
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@Bolaji,

Anyway, that is good news even if all the jobs dont come back home. But as you said, the surge will depend on the production cost in the home country. Apparenty in the US, manufacturing jobs are coming home fast according to this article.

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Jacob   9/27/2012 12:25:53 AM
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HH, we cannot say like that, Obama is trying his level best to bring back atleast some of the companies and to stop outsourcing. But again it may be for a short while still completing the next presidential election. Last week he also announced certain packages including tax rebate and exemption for native companies.

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Hospice_Houngbo   9/27/2012 9:39:13 AM
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@Jacob,

"Last week he also announced certain packages including tax rebate and exemption for native companies"

Thanks, tax rebartes are good incentives. Hopefully, these good intentions and the job onshoring momentum will not slow down after the election.

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Mr. Roques   9/27/2012 11:30:05 AM
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Do you have the information on the cost difference between all methods. There must be breakeven points based on kilometers, etc between them. 

Perishables and other products need a specific transportation method but others are more flexible. 

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Himanshugupta   9/27/2012 1:24:59 PM
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@Mr.Roques, i think that rail-road is the cheapest for land/intra-continent transportation and shipping is cheap for inter-continental transportation. Though such mode of transportation are slow and might require extensive supply chain management. I am pretty sure that both organic and inorganic products are transferred but organic product require special attention and conditions so that they can be consumed at the destined place.

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Jacob   10/1/2012 3:13:54 AM
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HH, even I have the same thought. He is trying to do something before the election, but I don’t know how long such momentums will last. Once after the next year presidential election, wait and see on how much spirit he can take it further.

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Jennifer Baljko   9/27/2012 5:31:32 AM
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Hospice - Thanks for sharing the link. I'll check it out. I tend to agree with Bolaji -- I can't imagine all manufacturing will come back to the US, but rather some select portions within some industries could make it back onshore, if all the numbers and risk assements somehow come into balance.

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hash.era   9/30/2012 2:27:52 AM
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Jennifer I think it's good if all the companies do not come back to USA since then it will give the investors to diversify the market to other countries which will indirectly bring revenue to USA

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Jennifer Baljko   9/27/2012 5:24:03 AM
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_ hm - bringing manufacturing back closer may offset the transportation costs, but it may not lessen the total, longer-term costs, and that's still what will drive business decisions.

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The Parts Are on the Way, but at What Cost?
SP   9/26/2012 2:54:48 AM
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Agreed if the transport medium by road is reduced, cost of logistics are bund to go high. And ultimately parts are going to get expensive. But truck driver's job isnt a fancy one. Its a hectic job with less pay. The risks are more.

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logistic trend in emerging countries
Himanshugupta   9/26/2012 1:30:53 PM
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In last few years i have seen something quite interesting happening in India as far as logistics and supply chain is concerned. With the advent of e-commerce in last decade and now it becoming a rage, these companies are building their own courier and postage network rather than relying on pre-existing private and public services. I do not know the real reason but i think tha better customer service, bit expensive but more reliable service and long term planning can be some reasons. I know that in US, FexEx and UPS etc are usually preferred for e-commerce services but not in India. I wonder whether any such activity is happening in other emerging countries.

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Jennifer Baljko   9/27/2012 5:27:26 AM
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Himanshugupta - That's an interesting trend, thanks for sharing the news. Do you know which companies are setting up their own delivery services? Any high-tech companies? I'd love to look into and maybe do a story about it. Thanks.

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Re: logistic trend in emerging countries
Himanshugupta   9/27/2012 1:13:37 PM
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Jennifer, the companies that i know are mostly local companies and involved in e-retail business. i do not think that you know any of these companies though they have been growing very fast and plan to hit 100 million USD business within 5 years. Some of the most notable are: flipkart, tradus, zabong.

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hash.era   9/30/2012 2:25:39 AM
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These are Indian online companies which are very much similar to eBay isn't it himsnshugupta ?

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Himanshugupta   9/30/2012 8:45:03 AM
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@hash, these companies are as similar as apart from e-bay. I think, on ebay anyone can sell but these companies are more like amazon...online e-stores for very much everything.

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hash.era   1/30/2013 10:41:59 AM
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Ok I got it. It seems much clearer now but dont you think the process is the same still ?



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