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Measuring the Supply Chain Carbon Footprint

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William K.
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Re: That "carbon footprint" and highly emotional thinking.
William K.   1/21/2013 9:08:08 PM
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Jennifer, you are exactly correct. The problem that I see is that there may not be a suitable means in existance. JUst because an action can be proposed does not nean that it can be executed, just as the fact that a product can be designed does not mean that it can be manufactured.

Jennifer Baljko
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Re: That "carbon footprint" and highly emotional thinking.
Jennifer Baljko   1/21/2013 1:59:10 PM
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William K.  - That's a key point: Laws made with good intentions but lead to unintended results... means that the industry has to figure out how to comply in a cost-effective way.

 

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Jennifer Baljko   1/21/2013 1:01:24 PM
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rohscompliant - you sound like you've been burned on this before. But, right, until a green energy solution can power a train from Brussels to Rome or a boat from China to Los Angeles, the industry and government will have to find a middle ground.

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Jennifer Baljko   1/21/2013 12:56:42 PM
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Barbara - That's exactly right - what's the alternative. For buildings and energy used by cities, Europeans are using a lot of alternative green energy options. But I don't believe it has trickled down to significant parts of the logistics chain. I'm not sure how the trains here are powered, but I'll add that to things to Google list, too.

William K.
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That "carbon footprint" and highly emotional thinking.
William K.   1/16/2013 5:04:14 PM
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Why should the EU believe that they can improve the situation? They have not made traffic flow smoothly in a lot of places, and they have reduced production efficiency with their ROHS foolishness.

Most laws created based on uneducated and un-informed emotions wind up doing things that were not originally intended. Everybody should understand that reality, and consider their actions very carefully.

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rohscompliant   1/16/2013 10:51:20 AM
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While 'going green' is a woderfully altruistic panacia ...it will not propel a container ship loaded with goods bound for the USA from China. "Going Green" will not lift a Boeing or an Airbus off the ground and into flight. Also it will not pull a mile long freight train across the continent loaded with refigerated goods or new automobiles.......some things just require the use of the internal combustion engine and the use of fossil fuel. the EU has enough problems of their own yet they will try to Carbon Credit us an VAT us to death.............and it is catching on over here........thanks Al Gore you pant load hypocrite.............yes this topic infuriates me. 

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Barbara Jorgensen   1/15/2013 11:47:51 AM
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Hi Jenn: I have to agree that CSR efforts may be creating a whole lot of difficulties with little result, but I'll reserve that debate for antoher day. My first thought after I read this article was about the EU's train system, which I've always believed was one of the best in the world. Here's a dumb question: are engines still powered by fossil fuel or electricity or both? (I can't answer that regarding our local system, but will google it later). Then there is air freight, which we know is fuel-driven. Finally, trucking, which in the US is sacred--the Teamsters Union. Nuff said. Here's the point: if this unambiguous measurement of CO2 concludes that planes, trains and trucking are all bad for the environment, what's the alternative? Lots of investment in upgrades, which the EU doesn't have the $$ for, or maybe donkeys?



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