Offsetting the 'Made in China' Label

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mario8a
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mario8a   12/30/2011 6:23:17 PM
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I'll like to read more about foxconn implementing more than 100K robots, does anyone has the article? In regards to the label made in china I've seen investors from Europe and North America looking to put that label in their products, China has develop tremendously in the last 20 years and in the next 5-8 years it might be 1-1 with the US dollar.

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_hm   12/27/2011 10:28:06 PM
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It is good topic to debate. But here more focus is on consumer. How about corporate responsibiltiy? They start it by taking all kind of work to off-shore  and knowingly hearting economy and people in their own society.

 

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Anne   12/27/2011 10:48:50 AM
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@Nemos,

You have a point, most of us are consumers with no interest or awareness of details about the products.

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tech4people   12/21/2011 12:38:03 PM
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Stochastic,

That is most certainly the case-Younger workers would definitely prefer the security which Older workers take for granted through lifetime employment guarantees.

This is just the way Companies have managed to shed their social obligations to society.In return this has made the Young very unsure and unconfident about their future and made it tough for them to plan for the future-Which is also the reason why they are putting off having kids atleast until they feel reasonably well settled in life(which usually results in just one kid).Cue-the rapidly declining Population that Japan has today.

There are huge swathes of the country where there is nobody(especially the rural countryside).Its just that the Tokyo-Yokohama belt that is dense.But even that will change-Just give it some more time.

Regards

Ashish.

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stochastic excursion   12/21/2011 11:18:35 AM
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Wasn't aware that the terms were less favorable for younger employees.  Maybe they're thinking it's better to jump around early in your career, even from kairetsu to kairetsu.  Still the world has and can still learn a lot from what Japan has accomplished in making the most of its workforce.

We can give Japan a little slack for having a restrictive immigration policy.  Being insular geographically and culturally, immigration is not part of its tradition as it is in the United States and elsewhere.  As far as I know its dense population creates challenges for keeping its own people productive, and financial and other crises in recent decades have contributed to these challenges.

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tech4people   12/21/2011 9:43:45 AM
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Stochastic,

Is that so?

If that is the case then why is it that Japanese no longer believe in the system of Lifetime employment(with constant retraining) for its young employees? Everyone under the age of 35 is now on Annual contracts.

Also,why is that Japan continues to be so Anti-immigration even though it has the worst demographics in the Developed world?

The Japanese know they need thousands and thousands of people for various jobs today.But they continue to with their stance of being Anti-immigrant and for the most part it continues to be the Most closed society on the planet today.

Its easier for them to build newer and newer robots than train immigrants.

Food for thought huh?

Ashish.

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stochastic excursion   12/21/2011 12:11:09 AM
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People would like it if robots did all their work for them.  Then life would be one long coffee break!  The trouble is that present-day robots can only do exactly what you tell them to. 

My take is that companies that rely heavily on robots don't fare well in the long run--take GM.  Foxconn will probably discover what the Japanese have known for a long time, that nothing can replace a loyal, motivated, and retrainable workforce. 

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tech4people   12/20/2011 2:15:19 PM
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Houngbo,

The Chinese actually can.

All they need to do is devalue the Chinese Yuan by 30% and Voila!

You can give the Chinese citizens a lower standard of living automatically.

Think about it..

Ashish.

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tech4people   12/20/2011 1:23:10 PM
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Houngbo,

On second thoughts put yourself in the shoes of a Employer.

A Robot does'nt need Coffee Breaks,Toilet Breaks,Lunch Breaks and neither does a Robot get bored or tired with doing the same kinds of repetitive tasks over and over and over again.

A Robot does not complain/crib if the weather is awful or does'nt feel like going to work or for that matter that the Cost of Living has escalated so much that the salary available is not good enough.

Whats not to like about using a Robot then?

Regards

Ashish.

 

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Hospice_Houngbo   12/20/2011 10:55:40 AM
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@stochastic excursion:

China cannot succeed in fighting against rising labour cost. The country is going through social change that will reflect on every part of the society. Chinese authorities know well that when they open the country to western investsment, the people will come in contact with western values that they would like to emulate. 

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