H1-B Critics Outline Program Flaws

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Wakjob
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Re: Immigration Reform
Wakjob   4/2/2012 4:55:43 PM
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'Cooperation' is just another word for communism and America has had quite enough of communism.

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Re: Immigration Reform
Rich Krajewski   4/2/2012 4:40:35 PM
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There is probably a solution to the current economic problem that involves more cooperation rather than more warfare. Most ethical systems try to achieve the former before they default to the latter.


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Re: H1-B
Wakjob   4/2/2012 4:15:48 PM
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What "talent"? Talent that has produced the biggest recession in 70 years? USA doesn't need that kind of talent. America was booming when Americans were running IT. Americans invented IT. America has all the talent it needs right here at home. A country that does not employ its own citizens isn't even a country.

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Re: IT Unemployment
Wakjob   4/2/2012 4:14:19 PM
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Yesterday Trump said he believed real unemployment was over 20%. It's at least that high. 8.3% is a joke. And no, despite the election-year hype, the economy is not improving.

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Re: A Bold Lie
Wakjob   4/2/2012 4:13:09 PM
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Giving H-1Bs or green cards to anyone with an advanced US degree will not solve the problem because they will still send their pay home instead of spending it in the US. The point is Americans spend their $ here, foreign workers send it home with the view of returning home as soon as they have made enough. Do not delude yourself into thinking these people want to become Americans and stay here. America needs a healthy base of US consumers in order for the economy to function properly.

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Re: I wanna Laugh...
Wakjob   4/2/2012 4:11:17 PM
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All those companies going under including Sun and Bell Labs after being taken over by Indians is as real as it gets.

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Re: IT Unemployment
Rich Krajewski   4/2/2012 4:10:01 PM
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"How much do you think the real Unemployment Numbers for IT professionals in America is today?"

 

I can't say for sure beyond my own impressions. However, if you presume that 5% is the rate where frictional unemployment predominates in an industry, and that anything above that reflects structural pain, then my oberservations of the general pain and the permanent changes that colleagues are experiencing in IT tell me that we are probably somewhere above 5% in IT unemployment. My gut tells me that the unemployment rate for US IT employees (non H1-B) is probably higher than the current average you mentioned, and older US employees are at the very highest in terms of unemployment and wasted potential.

It would be very easy to find a reasonable approximation of the true figure via a survey, but the organization doing the survey must be free of conflicts of interest. That means no political agenda, no advertising conflicts, and no sponsorship conflicts (as seen in the case of corporate "sponsoring memberships" in the big technological, so-called professional societies). We likely won't see that.

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H1-B
Barbara Jorgensen   4/2/2012 3:37:38 PM
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I think as written, the H1-B program is a good one. Oversignt would help weed out a lot of the abuses. I don't think we can blame the H1-B program for problems with immigration and legal/illegal workers. Again, as written, H1-B is not a ticket to a green card and is not intended to be. Rather than shut down a program that should bring talent into the US, an overhaul/oversight would be the better option.

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Re: IT Unemployment
tech4people   4/2/2012 3:27:48 PM
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Rich,

I accept both your arguments that Inflation and Unemployment in America are higher than official Govt numbers.

The best indicator of Inflation that I have seen is from Shadow Stats.

The Best indicator of Unemployment that I have seen is from Mike Shedlock.

But none of them give seperate breakdown for IT unemployment numbers.

From my work on SearchCIO.com,I have found out that they estimate Unemployment amongst IT Professionals is at 5.8% in America at the end of December 2011.

How much do you think the real Unemployment Numbers for IT professionals in America is today?

Regards

Ashish.

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IT Unemployment
Rich Krajewski   4/2/2012 3:14:24 PM
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"Unemployment amongst Americans has increased this Recession started in 2008.Albleit amongst the IT Crowd its still quite low(4%)."

I doubt the accuracy of the official unemployment figures, especially as, according to the US government, inflation is very low in the US. My observations tell me a different story, in both departments.


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