H1-B Critics Outline Program Flaws

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TaimoorZ
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TaimoorZ   3/31/2012 12:46:36 PM
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"Similarly while US govt is trying to show that it is against allowing too many foregin skilled workers to work in USA, many of the US businesses cannot do without those skilled foreign workers."

@parabhakar: I agree that the business owners and governments will have a conflict of opinion in this case. If the policy is implemented, business owners will run the risk of facing labor crisis. I wonder what the business community will have to say on this.


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Re: Immigration Reform
TaimoorZ   3/31/2012 12:38:45 PM
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I think making the visa reform is not an easy task for the US government. If they make the requirements very strict for immigrants, they run the risk of facing shortage of labor at least in the short-run if the US nationals are not able to take their place. On the other hand, if they make them too lenient, they are worsening the situation for US workforce who are already unemployed in a large number. It's really difficult to find a solution that can solve the problem.

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prabhakar_deosthali   3/31/2012 8:04:47 AM
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This dual standard policy on foreigner worker visa reminds me of the curbs put worldwide on the Tobaco Industry. Though the whole world acknowledges that the smoking is injurious to health, not a single government in the world has banned the manufactruing of cigarettes. Why? Because this idnustry gives them millions of dollars of tax revenue.

 

Similarly while US govt is trying to show that it is against allowing too many foregin skilled workers to work in USA, many of the US businesses cannot do without those skilled foreign workers.

Hence the govt policies look skewed in terms of what they say politically and what they implement as a business sense.

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Why can't The Govt be openly Protectionist???
tech4people   3/31/2012 6:23:57 AM
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Barbara,

I understand that most of these issues are talked about because Jobs in America are hard to come by today.

But if the Revenue coming in though these Visa Fees (this is why Visa Fees were raised substantially this year)was not Important for the Treasury Department;they would have straightaway forced INS to just shut the whole program.

You want to make money of them plus you want control how many people come in and what work they do and don't do.

I have a better proposal.Close the Program Completely to anyone who does'nt have a US Degree.

All those on existing Visas can continue working but no more New H-1Bs.

Its well-known that One H-1B Visa holder in America supports atleast 4-6 people back home in India(either through Jobs or by sending remittances back home).

The impact of this kind of a move will be devastating(atleast initially) for these people and especially for the Indian Software Outsourcing companies(They get close to 60% of their Business from America today).

But what about American Companies like IBM,Accenture,HP ,Microsoft and Cognizant???

They are all also dependent on this program(and are amongst its biggest supporters).

What happens then?Also, some of the biggest Indian Outsourcers have hired(over 25000) Amercan Citizens here in America in the last three-four years.Should they also fire these people???

If the Govt wants to be openly Protectionist;I don't mind it.

Its just that the Consequences of such a Move will bommerang back on those Clowns in DC bigtime.

Ashish.

P.S Even when it comes to paying below market wages for these Professionals; Its a personal choice for them.Nobody put a Gun to their heads forcing them to work for those wages.I am reminded about something I saw recently in China with Foxconn.

Foxconn under pressure from Apple(which itself was bowing under US Public pressure);decided to reduce paid over-time for most employees(so they get more time for Toilet Breaks and what not nonsense which most  Westerners are used to).

Consequence-The employees don't want it!!!

They Say they are here to work and not to play.Check this out!

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/03/30/apple-foxconn-working-hours-idINDEE82T05J20120330

Deciding to eliminate Global Wage Arbitrage is a noble Goal but you have to let the market do it-Its not something that can be established by Govt Diktat.

Regards

Ashish.

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Re: Immigration Reform
tech4people   3/31/2012 6:01:46 AM
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Mr.Roques,

I like your points.

How do you intend to ship back the 10 million or so Mexicans who are in the US illegally?

As for Training foriegners;I remember reading that a lot of High Level Techies(PHDs) were subjected to all kinds of crazy movement restrictions(Because they fell on some kind of sensitive technologies list or something of that sort called TRIP).

I have seen these guys get humiliated and harassed by DHS Goons  at American Airports just because they were going to see their old Mother back in India/China/Taiwan.

What most American Government Officials still don't get it is that High Quality Skilled Labor is in demand Globally.And if you don't treat them well in America they will just go elsewhere.

If Obama was really serious about changing this he would have made it easier for Foriegners with American Masters(&PHDs) Degrees to become American Citizens .

Lets say you have a Foriegner(with a US Advanced Degree) who has a steady job and is working in America for atleast 5 years straight;don't you think he should atleast have a Green Card/LIfeLong Multiple Entry Visa???

Canada,Australia,Singapore,the UK and New Zealand(who are competing for High Quality Tech talent with America have these rules in place).

Think about it practically-If a person even after working for 5 years straight does no feel secure in a country;why would he/she bother putting down roots there???

Why would he/she bother making any Investments like Buying a Home or for that matter Parking his money in America???

The Kind of Jobs this policy would generate in US Economy today is unbelievable.

The whole Immigration Process needs to be overhauled sharply today.

Ashish.

 

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Immigration Reform
Mr. Roques   3/30/2012 6:07:45 PM
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"We are the first nation to be founded for the sake of an idea—the idea that each of us deserves the chance to shape our own destiny. That's why centuries of pioneers and immigrants have risked everything to come here...The future is ours to win. But to get there, we cannot stand still."

 

Obama has been advocating for an immigration reform for quite sometime now. I believe the system must change, not only the H1B visa process.

Right now, IMHO, the legal way to go to the US (for qualified professionals) is too hard, and too easy for someone that simply wants to stay ilegally.

I remember a phrase from Obama that said that the US trained foreigners with the best education and then sent them away to compete against the US... because of the visa issues.

There's room to improve from both sides.

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