CEOs to California: Lose Our Number, Please

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mfbertozzi
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Re: Share the wealth
mfbertozzi   9/2/2012 5:18:00 AM
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@Mr.Roques: well, this is the next step of the puzzle; right trade off between local and super-partes laws. I am not sure it will really exist.

Mr. Roques
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Mr. Roques   8/25/2012 6:12:37 PM
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Well, thats the most efficient way but local governments have (earned?) their right to choose. That's why there are so many differences between states.

mfbertozzi
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mfbertozzi   7/12/2012 7:21:54 AM
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Well, at the end, I am for a regulator mechanism in charge of FedGov or Gov, instead of each single State for the local territory; in theory, it could allow to provide all with a fair methodology on top individual or regional interests.

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Mr. Roques   7/11/2012 10:22:15 PM
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Should states be left to decide? Or should the Fed. Government impose some sort of "minimum" restriction, similar to the European Union.

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Re: What about Taxes? And the Cost of Energy???
mjthompson   5/23/2012 1:06:07 PM
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Texas can be as unregulated as they want as long as the wind, the rivers, and the ocean don't carry their pollution to other states and the Texas taxpayers are required to pay for the cleanup and not the rest of us taxpayers, including me. 

I remember the savings and loan debacle of the 80s.  My state had strong S&L regulations and no S&L's failed.  The S&L's of Texas, however, were part of the $500 billion bailout (paid from federal taxpayer dollars including mine) because of Texas' lax S&L regulations.

Conservatives are always advocating personal responsibility but apparently that doesn't apply to their states because those states are always coming to the rest of us to bail them out of the consequences of their lax regulations, e.g. Federal Superfund cleanups.

To paraphrase Dumbledore (in the Harry Potter movies), "Harry, you have the choice to do what is right or to do what is easy."  Apparently, corporations prefer 'easy' over 'right'.

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Re: What about Taxes? And the Cost of Energy???
Barbara Jorgensen   5/22/2012 5:22:13 PM
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@Ashish: Those two anecdotes are alarming, but I'm not entirely surprised, either. Any bureaucracy that has as many holes in it as the US tax code no doubt has these sneaky little clauses for out-of-state income as well.

On a different note: California: The Europe of America. I like it. :-)

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Re: What about Taxes? And the Cost of Energy???
tech4people   5/22/2012 12:45:30 PM
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Barbara,

California is not Known as the Europe of America without reason.

It has a Severely Bloated Bueracracy,Heavily Unionized labor which are Professionals at blackmailing/Bank-rolling Politicians to keep Govt Wages insanely High which Causes taxpayers to suffer(until they revolt by leaving the State).

This is the primary reason why Taxes are so insanely High in California.

We are just one step away from a Debt Default in California(as we have been for the last decade or so).[New York,Michigan and Illinois are in the same Boat]

We have now got super-invasive Bueracracies in all these states;I was reminded about two of my friends and their experiences recently.

One friend,has not stayed or had any Business in California for over a Decade now;he is now getting Income Tax claims (for 2010 and 2011) from California!!!

 Not just that,the State has ordered his Bank to hand over the cash first(a request with which his Bank gladly complied...) including a Fine for Late Payment!!!

Another friend,spent two Days(yes Two Days) in New York State for some Official Business;for that he was sent an Income Tax claim and asked to pay Taxes!!!

Can't you see how desperate for Revenue these States are today?

 Mike Shedlock writes a very good Blog on this issue HERE


http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/05/california-governor-jerry-browns-new.html

Regards

Ashish.

Barbara Jorgensen
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Re: What about Taxes? And the Cost of Energy???
Barbara Jorgensen   5/21/2012 5:55:40 PM
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@Ashish: I do know about the energy costs, which has always amazed me because CA has oil refineries right offshore. So does Texas. As for the taxes, yes, CA is in the same boat as Mass. The business tax structure is not appealing, especially to start-ups.

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mfbertozzi   5/21/2012 12:18:11 PM
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Mr.Roques, hard to say who is right and who is wrong. I agree with you, regulations are absolutely a need, but maybe, respect to CA, TX is at early stage for this specific sector, we will see in the future.

tech4people
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What about Taxes? And the Cost of Energy???
tech4people   5/21/2012 12:05:25 PM
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Barbara,

You fail to mention two more issues in this space(which are extremely relevant to the decision of where to locate your New/Existing Business).

The First is Taxes-No Executive likes to see more than 50% of Income go in Taxes every year;and this is where California and New York lose out to Texas(after all Texas has no Income Taxes).

It becomes so much easier to convince senior execs to move their when they are said that you will save more of your Income from the Taxman.

The other reason is The High Cost of Energy in California.

Utilities as well as Gasoline cost much-much more in Calfornia(& New York too);than they do in Texas.

At the end of the day,these costs also have to be factored in the cost of Doing Business anywhere & especially today when the world is so hyper-competitive today .

Regards

Ashish.

 

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