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Data Overload Crimps Green Efforts

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Ariella
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Ariella   8/30/2012 1:07:25 PM
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"He uses ISO 9000 as a template, since the ISO standards emphasize consistency and process." That made me think that we'll know when it really becomes corporate standard when it makes it into a Dilbert cartoon. 

Of course, Big Data already made it in on July 29th, an even that the New York Times considered worthy of comment. 

 

Barbara Jorgensen
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Barbara Jorgensen   8/31/2012 8:47:04 AM
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Susan--thanks for the link! You are correct--if it makes a Dilbert cartoon, it's part of the mainstream. The thing about ISO it is a process for standardizing a process, which is great. But most people tell me the upshot is you have proof that your process is good. But if you are making, say, counterfeit components with your process...anyway, lots of room for comment and humor.

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Rich Krajewski   8/30/2012 7:30:25 PM
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As much as extra overhead and paper work are known to be the keys to success in any industry, maybe the electronics industy can use the advantage they have in knowledge of technology to automate some of these data requirements, before it kills them.

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nimantha.d   8/31/2012 2:03:22 AM
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Yes indeed and I think there are a few automated documentation services available in the market but does not know how good they are. Anyway its a must I feel that you should automate the process of documentation for the future because the paper work or the manual work scenario is dying gradually.

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Data Overload Crimps Green Efforts
SP   8/31/2012 1:53:47 AM
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Agree with the issue raised in the article. The whole reason of being green is to reduce waste. But if there is so much data needed to comply with being green, industry might have to rethink. Atleast they are hiring more people to cope up with audit so one way its good to provide employment. On the other note I have used Total part plus products way back in 2006 for obsolescence management. Its quite handy to use these tools.

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TaimoorZ   8/31/2012 2:50:40 AM
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"The whole reason of being green is to reduce waste. But if there is so much data needed to comply with being green, industry might have to rethink"

@SP: Agree with you here. If all this information is being maintained on paper, this means that larger the data, larger the number of pages required. And that means you're damaging the environment again by cutting down trees in an effort become green.

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FLYINGSCOT   8/31/2012 7:04:30 AM
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I imagine it will be a while before it is standardized across multiple industries.  I hope by then the procedures are easy to understand and follow but I guess I should not hold my breath for that.  I will wait for it to appear in Dilbert and learn from that.

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Barbara Jorgensen   8/31/2012 8:49:59 AM
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I remember talking to TI a few years ago about their effort to reduce their carbon foorprint and the documentation thay use as a benchmark. I tired to read it but not only was it full of acronyms, the measurement process was incomprehensible. I still don't fully understand carbon credits. Anyway, it boarders on ridiculous that every audit request is different and may target different things. Although it must be good for employment, as companies are hiring people just to push the paperwork through.

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WaqasAltaf   8/31/2012 11:20:29 AM
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@ Barbara 

It is also good for consultancy firms that are trying to help out organizations in complying with different green laws and in exchange making significant billable hours.

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Jacob   9/3/2012 6:14:17 AM
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Waqas, a common repository with all similar documents are good and may help for others to access such documents.

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mfbertozzi   9/5/2012 3:47:03 AM
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Absolutely yes! Going further, in case we would adopt some kind solutions in terms of tech, we can assume "cloud paradigm" is in condition to full support this process.

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Barbara Jorgensen   9/5/2012 5:04:42 PM
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@waqas: good point.  "Green" is good while "Greed" is bad...

seriously, though, the consultanices I have been dealing with have a big picture approach to this issue whereas I think companies and even industries tend to focus only on their own immediate problems. To use another green analogy: consultancies see the forest rather than the trees :-) Data is only a symptom of the bigger problem, which is the industry seems to be fragmenting on these issues rather than uniting

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WaqasAltaf   9/6/2012 1:48:15 PM
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@ Barbara

In these times of recession, many businesses cant afford to devote efforts to complying with such laws. Some businesses focus only on profit maximization while ignoring law. Some businesses want to comply and for that they force their supply chain partners to comply if they want to continue dealing. So all these fragments are inevitable and unity cannot be achieved unless all businesses implement green efforts in a uniform way in an industry.

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WaqasAltaf   8/31/2012 11:08:18 AM
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The requests made by your customers and suppliers cannot be ignored and they have to be satisfied even if takes setting up an entire department for the purpose. However, as far as regulatory bodies are concerned, atleast they should realize that in order to ensure effective implementation green efforts, cooperation has to be imparted as it is not possible for organizations to comply with everything. Its better that organizations fully comply with some rather than dishonour all laws.

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mfbertozzi   9/5/2012 3:45:12 AM
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@WaqasAltaf: it is a really important perspective and personally, I totally agree with; on the other hand, I have experienced some issues in interacting with customers for the fact that sometimes contract's agreement terms were not sufficiently clear and similar events have generated extra-costs in managing these situations. Right agreement quite often means right relationship, no extra-costs and right way to accomplish for both involved parts (customer and supplier) the sales' matter.


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WaqasAltaf   9/6/2012 1:38:16 PM
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@ mfbertozzi

Well you see the root of the problem is the regulatory pressure. If regulators require a company to evaluate its suppliers' compliance with green efforts, the company will request for data. I dont think there will be any company that will require such data from its suppliers if the regulatory pressure wasnt there.

Meanwhile, you are right that the regulatory pressure is causing supplier/customer relationships to be taken care of by lawyers.

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mfbertozzi   9/7/2012 3:46:23 AM
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Thank you Waqasaltaf, I totally agree on that and this an additional point to consider; really often people (I mean corporations) take an action because of rules coming from regulators; I believe a different attitude, a proactive attitude, could provide benefits for all involved in the process.

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Barbara Jorgensen   9/7/2012 8:58:03 AM
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@waqas: Right on. There is always a short-sightedness among public companies to turn the next profit. Investors only look as far out as the next quarter. Investment in green reaps benefits in the long haul, and many companies i know are out there tryig to explain that to shareholders. I think that is a dilemma all companies face: where to invest your limited resources--and where the ROI finally kicks in.

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WaqasAltaf   9/8/2012 11:23:33 AM
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Yes Barbara. It has become so important for companies to inform and explain to their shareholders that they are subject to compliance with environmental regulations and the impact of complying with those regulations on profitability and financial position. Unfortunately, most shareholders will choose a non-compliant profit making company over a compliant low-profit making company.



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