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Encouraging news
_hm   9/11/2012 6:28:12 PM
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This is a very encouraging story and very good attitude. Can this product be market employed in industrial auotmation?

 

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hash.era   9/12/2012 12:30:23 AM
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_hm: Interesting and a good lesson for all of us.

Regarding your request on can it be marketed in industrial automation, I do not see why it cannot be. There are certain limitations but not impossible at all.

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Adeniji Kayode   9/12/2012 5:36:24 AM
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@ hash.era

You are right on that, I agree with you on that.

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hash.era   2/16/2013 10:25:48 PM
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With the current trend anything is possible.

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t.alex   9/13/2012 10:19:01 AM
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I believe the first batch of Pi boards were manufactured in China. However this is definitely very encouraging move. Love the board too !

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Barbara Jorgensen   9/13/2012 3:13:10 PM
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@talex: Yes, they were. That initial run that nobody wanted to deal with was done in China. That also runs counter to the typical manufacturing solution: most prototypes are done in factories close to the OEM so the OEM can work out the bugs. So the prototype was produced in China and the volume production will be split between China and the UK. I agree--very cool

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_hm   9/13/2012 7:36:03 PM
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If China is removed from this equation can UK operation can supply product at this attractive price? Or is China operation must for UK operation to depend on for lower cost?

 

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Barbara Jorgensen   9/14/2012 12:54:35 PM
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@hm: Right now, the short answer is "no." Even some of the components sourced for the UK production are made in China. I think China still has a big part to play in cost-effective manufacturing, but it is nice to see it doesn't have to be the ONLY player.

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TaimoorZ   9/16/2012 6:24:50 AM
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It's good to see that China is not the only low cost producer in the world. Even if other countries might still lag behind China, the competition will ensure that Chinese themselves stay on their toes and do not become complacent. This would ensure that efficiency in the production sector continues across the world.

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_hm   9/16/2012 8:52:12 PM
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Thanks Barbra. This looks good apporach. Also, UK can do some value adeed enhancement and they also have overall control of future of product.

 

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anandvy   9/17/2012 1:30:28 PM
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Even some of the components sourced for the UK production are made in China.

@Barbara, thanks for this clarification. This tag is something similar to Google's "Made in USA" tag for Nexus Q. Many people are not aware of the fact that "Made in US" or "Made in UK" doesn't necessarily mean that the product is not using Chinese products. But this marketing strategy definitely helps the companies to attract more buyers.

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hash.era   2/16/2013 10:24:58 PM
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Me too but the feedback was not that good

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Adeniji Kayode   9/12/2012 5:34:48 AM
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@_hm

Yes, it should.

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Made in UK
Jacob   9/12/2012 6:10:17 AM
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Barbara, after the made in USA policy by some of the companies, now it's the turn for UK. Whether there is any particular advantage for companies to opt for made in UK products. I mean any special tax treaty or any federal government initiative for promoting native products.

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Barbara Jorgensen   9/12/2012 9:38:41 AM
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@jacob: good question. There are advantages, as long as the costs work out. For example, the Pi inventors can hop in a car and visit the assembly line if they want to. Any problems with components or supply can be taken care of immediately: with Premier Farnell in the UK, component delivery is significantly easier. It is a pretty complex process to figure out just how much all of this time-savings is worth, but for Sony UKTec it was compelling enough. Some of the Pi's components are still made in China and shipped to the UK. So I guess the lesson is offshore where it makes sense, and onshore when you can.

That's why we discuss "landed cost" of the Pi vs. total cost--landed cost accounts for all the shipping and procurements costs and the physical movement of inventory.

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Jacob   9/17/2012 12:03:33 AM
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Barbara, I think such advantages can exist only if they limited the operations within the territory of the native country. If they have a plan to go for global operations or in multiple countries, how they customers can avail such advantages. If they want to offer the same advantage, they have to duplicate the same effort in other countries also, which can incur additional expenses and investments.

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Need for globalization
Jacob   9/12/2012 6:15:14 AM
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"And we all wanted to prove a product could be designed and manufactured in the same country"

Such patriotisms are good, but in this globalization era, will it have any advantage. The basic underlined concept of globalization is promoting global business in a pick and stitch manner, irrespective of country or economy. Companies can get done their work at different countries based on resource availability at the best price.

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FLYINGSCOT   9/12/2012 7:29:43 AM
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The Pi is a great little idea and I hope it inspires a new generation of engineers and entrepreneurs.

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Cryptoman   9/12/2012 5:08:22 PM
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This is a living example and proof that local manufacturing in the West can still be profitable for the right applications. Pi will not only be an inspiration to the young generation of engineers in the UK but it will also inspire entrepreneurs and businesses to rethink outsourcing offshore and to at least consider giving local manufacturing a chance before looking outside.

This success story is something we should all keep in our minds for the future.

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anandvy   9/17/2012 1:38:39 PM
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The Pi is a great little idea and I hope it inspires a new generation of engineers and entrepreneurs.

@Flyingscot, true. People have used Pi to build interesting products. One of the interesting application of raspberry Pi, that I came across was embed a raspberry Pi into a DSLR camera for wireless tethered shooting.

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Made in the UK
SP   9/13/2012 3:50:17 AM
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Agreed as long as you manufacture and sell in the same region, you can make up for the charges gone into building the product. But the moment you start thinking going global the cost where you manufacture and base cost in the country where you sell matters. Sometimes shipping costs are very high especially if you go global. May be that is one of the reasons why companies want  to manufacture in China or other Asian regions. But then there is always chances of getting it copied and piracy issues.

This product reminds me of a tablet that Indian goverment is planing to launch.It would cost around $35. I remember I did an early booking last year but it has not yet come. Wonder how can they make it at such low cost. I guess thats why it never saw the light of the day atleast for me...

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TaimoorZ   9/16/2012 6:31:21 AM
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"Sometimes shipping costs are very high especially if you go global. May be that is one of the reasons why companies want to manufacture in China or other Asian regions."

@SP: That's a very valid point. Given the large size of Chinese market and their relatively high purchasing power, many companies enjoy the advantage of selling to the Chinese and other surrounding markets if they manufacture in China. If the transport costs become higher in the coming years, we might see companies going for decentralized manufacturing operations to save on shipping costs instead of consolidating all their operations at one location.

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Interesting article on Raspberry Pi
Cryptoman   9/14/2012 3:56:21 PM
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Recently I came across this article which I wanted to share here. It talks about the not so rosy aspects of Raspberry Pi which I am sure people who want to experience this platform will find very interesting.

Apparently, although its price is low, it seems like one will need to spend more to make teh best use of it. Furthermore, the CPU datasheet is not released by the manufacturer which makes embedded development a bit difficult in case of problems.



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