2013 H1-B Visa Cap Remains the Same

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Bolaji Ojo
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Bolaji Ojo   3/29/2012 4:05:54 PM
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The need and type of people who apply for the H1-B visa will continue to evolve. If we pay close attention, though, we'll find this process tells as much about us as it does about the applicants. Will applicants snap up the visas, will we have to scrap the program because some believe we don't need it or will we scrap it simply because demand falls off?

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Rich Krajewski   3/29/2012 5:24:37 PM
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A very good article, but I am guessing there are additional factors to consider. One factor that I would hypothesize has bearing is the economic motivation that manufacturers have for claiming they cannot find trained workers in the US. With pay still being lower overseas than in the US, foreign workers brought to the US have lower pay expectations than US workers. It is tempting for manufacturers to say that US workers with the proper skills cannot be found, than admitting the primary motivation is economic.

As for the fall in initial jobless claims, this is of course not the complete picture. There is still a huge pool of unemployed here in the US. The fall in claims merely indicates (and I emphasize the word indicates) that the pool is not growing as fast as it did previously. Moreover, we know that job growth has been dismal, which is why the unemployment rate is still so high. In fact, it would be much higher if it were not for the way it is calculated. That is, the unemployment rate does not actively seek to count those long-term unemployed who are no longer eligible for unemployment benefits, treating them instead as no longer looking.

The bottom line, for me, is that H1-B visas are means of continuing to bring in cheaper labor, not more educated labor. Seeing as many highly skilled (and highly competent and intelligent) workers that I see right here in the US, it seems ridiculous to believe the claim that US companies need to continue importing labor from overseas. However, the ridiculous can often be made into official dogma with the aid of political power, and that is what seems to have happened here.

Thanks for your thought-provoking article.

 

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Rich Krajewski   3/29/2012 5:57:09 PM
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"...will we scrap it simply because demand falls off?"

As long as there is a sufficiently high differential between pay expectations of US workers and foreign workers, I find it very hard to believe that the H1-B visa system will be scrapped.


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Bolaji Ojo   3/29/2012 6:17:53 PM
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Rich, I don't believe US Congress will unilaterally scrap the program either. However, the utility to manufacturers and potential foreign employees may determine its continued value. Considering the size of the US economy, I don't believe the 65,000 per year visa allocation will directly impact employment and I don't see it as the main factor repressing wages either.

You may be right that it is being abused and that should be corrected. It costs employers a lot to recruit foreign employees plus there's a limit to the number of years such workers can stay in the US. It's not the best way to run a business by simply relying on "cheap imported labor."

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Rich Krajewski   3/29/2012 6:26:19 PM
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"I don't believe the 65,000 per year visa allocation will directly impact employment and I don't see it as the main factor repressing wages either."

The threat of H1-B visas may have more clout than the one-to-one replacement numbers may indicate. I know that H1-B visas are not supposed to replace US workers, in theory, but I suspect they do. While you are right that the total number of visas is a small percentage of the US market, the visas do seem to have significant leverage in that they represent a powerful threat and reminder to US workers to keep their own expectations down.

It would be interesting to see whether H1-B visas decline as US salaries stagnate and perhaps decline in real terms.


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Nemos   3/29/2012 8:43:13 PM
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There are a lot of high skilled people out-there as long US industry needs trained person I believe the H1-B Visa will help both sides ( unemployment foreigners, American Industry)

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Hospice_Houngbo   3/29/2012 9:16:13 PM
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@Rich:

"The fall in claims merely indicates (and I emphasize the word indicates) that the pool is not growing as fast as it did previously. "

The fall in claims may also be due to the fact that people no longer apply for jobs because they are fed up to be told that they don't have the skills companies need. But globally it is good indication that the economy is recovering. 

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prabhakar_deosthali   3/29/2012 10:21:44 PM
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It is my observation that many a engineers from India who go to US for further studies finally end up taking Finance jobs. So the original skill sets by which they enter US is not utlised at all.

Such migration from  an engineering career to a non engineering career defeats the basic purpose for which they got entry into US

May be US immigration laws should impose some restrictions of alloting H1-B visas to such cases thereby ensuring that the visas are used for the right purpose.

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Eldredge   3/30/2012 8:19:11 AM
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Since they are issued for highly skilled employment, one could also argue that the economic impact (assuming that a domestic worker could have been placed in the same capacity) is disproportionate to the number of visas issued.

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Rich Krajewski   3/30/2012 8:33:02 AM
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"The fall in claims may also be due to the fact that people no longer apply for jobs because they are fed up to be told that they don't have the skills companies need."

Initially I was going to argue your point, but then I thought about how reasonable it is to think that the US skill set and all of the US's abilities have flown out the window and disappeared overnight, so I decided not to attempt to challenge the logic and power of your hypothesis.


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