US Government Fails Counterfeit Detection 101

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obsbuyer
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Us Government fails
obsbuyer   8/29/2012 3:26:39 PM
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Not all the agency's are out of control . I provided information to the MDA (Missile Defense Agency)  GMD (Ground Missile Defense) and they have been BOM scrubbing and monitoring  availability obsolete  material for years and placing orders for in advance for long lead-time items. They are well informed on the counterfeit issues. Sad report card for the DLA.

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stochastic excursion   8/29/2012 6:10:38 PM
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This is another facet of the counterfeit component problem.  Buyers are reluctant to affect business relationships with suppliers, who may be unwittingly passing counterfeit components, by snitching to government agencies.  I think as enforcement gets stricter, compliance will fall into line.

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Mandated DNA markings
owen   8/30/2012 8:03:55 AM
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I would expect the situation to improve with the recent madate the DLA issued requiring botanical DNA marking of all microchips by solutions provided by Applied DNA Sciences.

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Barbara Jorgensen   8/30/2012 9:15:11 AM
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obsbuyer--thanks for that information. I was ready to post a critical and outraged response to some of the points here...but just as anything with the government, there are areas where things work pretty well. Thanks for the perspective, and I'll hold off on the outrage...maybe it's just pre-election overload :-)

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Douglas Alexander   8/30/2012 1:26:29 PM
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@Owen, I understand that there are in excess of 100 microcircuits OEMs that will have to mark each chip with the botanical DNA from Applied DNA Sciences. I called them and they have beefed up their employee count and real estate by 50% in anticipation of the business demand that arises from this DLA mandate. We should see this technology proliferating to other electronic components as well. What do you think?

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Mandates
ddeisz   8/30/2012 1:46:33 PM
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Regarding the USG failing counterfeit detection 101, the story goes much deeper. Rochester Electronics and Analog Devices will be talking about this in our weblog on 9/12 coming up soon.

Please don't hold your breath for the DNA Mandate. That will be the topic for many blogs going forward. That mandate wasn't well thought out before it left DLA in my opinion. Long-term systems are low-volume systems in comparison to what drives the semiconductor manufacturers. That means a bulk of the purchases have to come through distribution of some kind and not direct sales (volumes are too low for direct sales). This mandate creates all kinds of logistics issues in exchange for what amounts to .5% or less of total semiconductor sales. The semiconductor manufacturers are not going along with the mandate, regardless of Applied DNA advertising. Like I said, not well thought out....like so many mandates.

 

Dan Deisz

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owen   8/30/2012 4:52:07 PM
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ddelsz, "The semiconductor manufacturers are not going along with the mandate..." From the information I gathered from the DLA (not Applied DNA Sciences) it seemed that the process was inexpensive, easy to incorporate in existing work flows, extremely robust, uncopyable, and indeed going forward. I'd be interested to know which manufacturers are refusing to participate and specifically why. What alternatives do suppliers have? Opt out of doing business with the DoD?

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owen   8/30/2012 6:51:48 PM
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Douglas, according to DLA Chief, Vice Admiral Mark Harnitchek, who was recently interviewed by Defence News Radio, DNA marking of microcircuits and Follow on commodities is one of four major initiatives of the DLA. His entire interview is available on the Federal News Radio website. I believe it was broadcast last Wednesday.

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ddeisz   8/30/2012 9:52:49 PM
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Owen,

The official responses are coming into DLA now and I have seen some of them. They will be public soon enough. Suffice to say they are almost all negative. DLA does not represent all DoD semiconductor component purchases; actually far from it. The mandate pertains only to DLA purchases. The DLA mandate had no support from the biggest semiconductor manufacturers in the world before going out the door. That's no way to partner with industry. Applied DNA was unsuccessful at selling to the vast majority of the semiconductor companies directly. They took their story and lobbied hard for a mandate "end around" and are now advertising as fast as they can. They have burned bridges in doing so.

One must look at the original intent of this whole fiasco (eliminate and/or dramatically reduce counterfeit) to understand how such a mandate could come into being to begin with. Fantastic intent, very little industry buy-in, followed by mandate. Fortunately, there are many other ways to eliminate counterfeit sooner and with more cooperation from industry than this mandate. DNA marking is not the only way and consequently does not justify a mandate. DNA marking for DLA has supply chain logistics issues that have not been thought all the way through....and the mandate does nothing for that thought process. DNA marking is more than a bottle of special ink and a laser pen for manufacturers ladies and gentlemen. Supply chain logistics are a big problem when it comes to marking parts for DLA.

Last word on this long response....there are easy scenarios where legitimate parts in packages have mysterious handling and no CofC's. DNA marking has done nothing here. What about billions of legitimate legacy parts on shelves today that have no DNA marking? Think about it - most semiconductor components that will be purchased by DLA for the next decade have already been manufactured!

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therealGman   8/31/2012 8:12:04 AM
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I am curious - you say "Fortunately, there are many other ways to eliminate counterfeit sooner and with more cooperation from industry than this mandate."

If industry had other easier ways to eliminate counterfeits sooner than using Applied DNA markings wy haven't they done so?  What are the other methods to which you refer and why would they be so superior to DNA marking?  If you tell me they have or are implementing the other methods then my question is why then has the incidence rate of counterfeits being introduced into the supply chain exploded?  Perhaps it takes a mandate to force industry to get into the game and do something.

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