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Resolving the Conflict Over 'Conflict Minerals'

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Barbara Jorgensen
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$8 billion, more or less
Barbara Jorgensen   9/11/2012 9:21:33 AM
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The $8 billion fgure was researched by the IPC via Tulane University. Maybe academia isn't the best place to research such things (as some would argue it is not the 'real world'.) It does sound like a lot of money. However, I think there has been research on RoHS which measures the cost of R&D that went in to finding comparable lead-free solders and new equipment to process these solders. It's a pretty hefty number. (I think DCA covered this in a Webinar and I will find my notes). I fully support the spirit of Dodd-Frank but I still think as a directive it lacks any real incentive to comply. Let's assume for a moment the $8b is correct. As a reader points out, it's less expensive to buy the mining operations outright and ensure worker safety. BTW, who exactly is going to check the compliance statements?

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Re: Cost of compliance
Bolaji Ojo   9/11/2012 8:10:21 AM
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R.J. There's a payoff to companies for being compliant with these rules despite the obviously high cost and sometimes the additional personnel involved. As it is difficult to determine the actual cost of compliance so is it difficult at times to determine the cost of non-compliance! In this case, compliance is a cheaper price.

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Re: Cost of compliance
R.J.Matthews   9/11/2012 6:43:36 AM
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Bolaji would expect Claigans estimates to be more accurate as they were based on real programs being implemented plus they were very accurate over the way they thought things would turn out.

So maybe take their figures as a starting point then reduce it for the concessions given that they did not anticipate then add a bit back on for the unexpected. Then reduce it a bit again for the cost saving made by a greater understanding by companies of their supply chain.

Saying that agree with you that any estimate of new rules or laws will always involve a certain amount of educated guessing, but if every new rule and law was scrutinized for years and years by various bureaucracies and lawyers the whole of government would grind to a halt.

You can argue that has already happened but that's another discussion!

 

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Re: Cost of compliance
Bolaji Ojo   9/10/2012 8:46:36 PM
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The $8 billion is a number some genius pulled out of a hat for the industry. Can anyone truly say they can accurately assess the cost of compliance to the industry?

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Re: Cost of compliance
R.J.Matthews   9/10/2012 4:14:38 PM
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The eight billion guesstimate was inaccurate and wrong at the time and now looks even more wrong now Barbara, after several concessions to keep the costs down including the origin undetermined one. (see my first post).

The phase in period is wrong as well considering how long this saga has been dragging on already. It was certain sections of industry and the American chamber of commerce that pushed for it and others measures that mean the rules are not going to be as strong as they should have been. To many cases where the choice was saving lives or saving money and saving money won the day in my view.

The Sec was in a difficult position though and trying to get a balance of compromise between keeping the cost down and keeping the opposing views happy with the threat of legal action hanging over them if they got it wrong.

No argument that no one is totally happy with the result but i guess that old saying about politics being the art of the possible is true. Hence

http://www.globalwitness.org/library/us-securities-and-exchange-commission-votes-landmark-rules
On the other hand.

http://charliekimeri.posterous.com/sec-passes-natural-resource-transparency-and

The intent of Section 1502 of Dodd-Frank (and thus of SEC) was not to mandate penalties for sourcing minerals from mines controlled by armed groups in conflict-afflicted regions. Instead it relies on the adverse reputational effect of such disclosure. Reputable companies would want to avoid having their name associated with armed conflict, human rights violations, slavery and rape.

Effectively from day one unscrupulous and corrupt companies could ignore Dodd Frank but they run the risk of massive reputational damage and pariah status. That has not really changed.

Industry has been increasingly won over by the argument for Dodd-Frank though and this is likely to increase as the benefits become more obvious and the costs are shown to be have been exaggerated by some.

The main benefit being that a lot of good will be done and lives saved.

 

 

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Re: Cost of compliance
Sparky the Wonder Cat   9/10/2012 2:31:07 PM
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$8-billion is the estimated cost just for due-dilligence? You could BUY the DRC for less than $8-billion! With an average monthly household income of around $20 I-mean, really, let the U.N. broker an offer.

Q: Is there an estimate for the cost of compliance?

Once industry collectively blows $8-billion on due-dilligence (that almost certainly won't achieve the wishful results) I can imagine compliance legi$lation won't be far behind.

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Cost of compliance
Barbara Jorgensen   9/10/2012 1:11:59 PM
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The $8 billion mentioned in this article was the figure I was casting for in Douglas' REACH article as well. $8 billion is the estimated cost to the electronics industry to comply with Dodd-Frank, which, as you point out, simply requires due diligence and not compliance.

The "origin undetermined" assessment is merely a loophole for companies that can't or won't change their supply chain. Brilliant!

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Re: End the conflict
R.J.Matthews   9/10/2012 12:15:43 PM
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http://www.supplychainbrain.com/content/technology-solutions/collaboration-integration/single-article-page/article/how-business-should-respond-to-secs-rule-on-conflict-minerals/

Funny how so many of the regulations that business decries end up yielding bottom-line benefits. We saw the same phenomenon in the wake of new security measures mandated after 9/11. The much-maligned 24-hour rule for filing vessel manifests with u.s. customs and border protection ended up giving importers better information on the status of their shipments. Similarly, sec's conflict minerals rule could equip manufacturers with deeper intelligence about thei rsupplychains, while boosting their brand reputation with consumers.

Complaints about regulatory burdens and overbearing government not withstanding, there needn't be a conflict between good business and a dedication to human rights.


 

 


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Re: Conflict Over Minerals
R.J.Matthews   9/8/2012 6:24:34 AM
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http://agmetalminer.com/2012/09/05/how-conflict-minerals-rules-affect-steel-scrap-and-gold-supply-chains/

Interesting bit here on recycling there should not be any reasonable excuse for suppliers to push the price up significantly especially by 600 percent!

Industrial metal prices generally have reduced a lot due to the economic downturn one of the few metals to go up is gold so unless the element is largely gold think the price rise is a bit extortionate.

 

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Conflict Over Minerals
mario8a   9/7/2012 6:58:41 PM
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Recently I was aware about a tensile strength issue related to a component in the automotive industry, after some investigation the company find out their supplier was sourcing the raw material ( including a blend of some minerals ) from what they call a mini mill supplier, wich means their source from either third world countries in Africa and moreover recicle material.

Minerals have becamo a conflict, mainly for the core element for speakers, which raised it's price up to 400% in the last year.

Mario Ochoa.

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