Is America Losing the Battle for Tech Talent?

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Bolaji Ojo
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Re: Rebuttal To NFAP "Study"
Bolaji Ojo   10/30/2012 10:37:42 AM
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Dear Pertubed, I think you just made an excellent case for how data can be used to make two opposing arguments!

prabhakar_deosthali
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Work from home; Work from home country
prabhakar_deosthali   10/30/2012 5:32:29 AM
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In today's Internet driven work environment, A skilled professional need not leave his home country to work for a US company. He can contribute to the innovation projects of US companies sitting right at home in his home country.

So the immigration laws are soon going to loose their sheen as the talented people no more need to beg for Visas or Green cards to be able to work for US companies.

US companies are opening their R & D centers in developing countries where abundant talent and skilled workforce is available and many of these companies have work from culture

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Education and knowledge is the key
_hm   10/29/2012 7:29:41 PM
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Education and knowledge is the key. This is quite known and most think tank and parents are aware of this. But America is doing very little in education, early chilhood to school and university. Amerca has to do lots of work in this direction. Obama has dream for this, but unable do much. Along with education at home, immigrants do help keep America leader in technology.

 

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times they are a changing
FLYINGSCOT   10/29/2012 3:34:35 PM
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When I lived in the US about 25 years ago most electronics high tech companies were predominantly fuelled by US born workers.  There was significantly fewer Asian, Indian or Latin American employees in leadership roles.  Nowadays the picture is much more varied.  As such there are many highly trained non-USA workers and it is only to be expected that a higher number of them will want to leave the USA at some point, for instance to return to their homeland.  Also the world is a lot smaller these days and work practices more flexible.

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Re: Rebuttal To NFAP "Study"
Hospice_Houngbo   10/29/2012 12:15:52 PM
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@Tam Harbert,

With the cost of labour in the U.S. do you think that foreign-born founders are still willing to create their companies in the country when they can make more profit in low labour cost areas such as the countries in the asian region? 

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Re: Rebuttal To NFAP "Study"
Tam Harbert   10/29/2012 10:43:03 AM
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Good information. Do you think the companies with foreign-born founders would still have been launched without the foreign-born entrepreneurs? The point is that foreigners are interested in founding companies here, and that we lose talent, and jobs, if they take their talents and found companies elsewhere. Even if those startups don't hire as many Americans (which your data seem to suggest), they do create some American jobs. Also, if even one of them grows to become the next Google or anything even close, it's a huge gain in jobs and innovation.

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Rebuttal To NFAP "Study"
Perturbed Pundit   10/29/2012 10:37:08 AM
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"Immigrant Founders - The REST of the Story"

Eighty percent, or 40 out of 50, of the country's Top 50 Venture-Funded companies had one or more American born founders. No, I didn't make up the statistic, I found the data and reversed the spin that the pro-immigration faction is trying to promote.

Curiously, the NFAP document, "Immigrant Founders and Key Personnel in Americas Top Venture Funded Companies", has a table with the names and birthplace of the foreign-born founders. However, after finding another source for the "Top 50" data, I found that NFAP removed the names of the U.S. born founders and eliminated the companies that did not have a foreign-born founder.

Considering both tables - the one in the NFAP document and the one provided by the WSJ (in the sources below) - I have found the following:

23 of the 50 companies selected did have one or more foreign-born (co)founders; however, 13 of those 23 companies also had one or more American born cofounders. Only 10 of the Top 50 companies did not have an American born cofounder.

Companies "Without a Foreign Born Founder" have employment levels 26% higher than the Top 50 average employment levels.

Companies "Without a American Born Founder" have employment levels 25% lower than the Top 50 average employment levels.

The benefit of employment growth in foreign born cofounded companies is muted by a substantially higher application rate for temporary foreign workers and below average employment levels. Companies with foreign born (co)founders (23 of 50) are almost twice as likely to apply for H-1B temporary guestworker visas.

Most of the Top 50 companies (36) are located in California, which has 34.9% population of foreign-born employed in the labor force, so the 31.9% foreign-born (co)founders basically represents the population -- the data shows nothing statistically remarkable about foreign-born founders.

Source Data:

National Foundation for American Policy (NFAP)
"Immigrant Founders and Key Personnel In America's Top Venture-Funded Companies"

Wall Street Journal
Top 50 Venture-Funded Companies WSJ.com
(This source provided founder data omitted from tables presented by NFAP publication)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704132204576190644237905576.html

Foreign Born Employed in the Labor Force:

Employed Civilian Foreign-Born Labor Force by State: 2007
Appendix Table A.

www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/acs-09.pdf

Foreign Labor Certification - H-1B Program Data: http://flcdatacenter.com/CaseH1B.aspx

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