Is America Losing the Battle for Tech Talent?

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garyk
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Is America Losing the Battle for Tech Talent?
garyk   11/1/2012 4:40:40 PM
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Someone needs to send all these comments to the President Obama.

Nation of immigrants, YES. Not fighting the Govenment of CHINA who is trying to take over the worlds manufacturing. My guest is that CHINA's exports are down. Other counties are fighting the manufacturing War and trying to get there fair share of manufacturing back to there country. If CHINA exports are down then the battles are a sucess.

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Bluto   11/1/2012 3:36:38 PM
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I had no idea there was a "battle for tech talent".

I guess Vivek is doing the patriotic thing and stepping forward to try to help American companies that cannot find technical people to hire.

NOT REALLY.

Sarcasm aside, the reality is that there are many American engineers willing and able to do the work that American companies need. The problem is that American companies prefer to hire cheap labor from India.

Presenting the issue as one of scarcity of technical talent is naive at best and dishonest at worst.

 

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twins.fan   11/1/2012 2:16:23 PM
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I wish that being a victim of name calling would be the extent of suffering caused by the false stories being spread by the likes of Vivek Wadhwa and the media that spreads his fraud and his propaganda.

Unfortunately, the suffering extends way beyond being the victim of name calling. The suffering extends to where hundreds of thousands of US STEM workers have been forced out of their careers by cheap entry level workers immigrating from third world countries.  US STEM workers who have had to abandon their careers are losing their homes and their families.

As I reported earlier, the government and the politicians know that these recipients of the H-1B visa are NOT highly skilled.  They know that 94% of the recipients of H-1B visas are not even fully competent.  They know that US STEM workers are forced to train their replacements as a condition of receiving a severance package.

Clearly corporate America is training the recipients of the H-1B visa, instead of training the 50% of recent college grads who still have not found full time employment. Clearly corporate America is training recipients of H-1B visas instead of updating the skills of experienced workers with twenty years of experience.

Why is this happening?  It is happening because the media of today is totally consumed with passing along the corporate propaganda instead of doing real journalism.  Thank your lucky stars that your reporters are merely the victim of name calling instead of being the victim of the propaganda that your reporters are spewing.

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Barbara Jorgensen   11/1/2012 11:48:44 AM
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It is not a matter of nice or not nice--it is a matter of experience, credentials and facts. Regardless of whether we agree or disagree with the premise of the book, the article, or the author, we are professionals here. It is clear that you question Wadwha's intent and credibility. Those are valid points and add some perspective to the discussion and the information Wadwha presents. Readers can draw their own conclusions from the information. We just ask that readers treat contributors and commentors with respect, and that works both ways. I don't think name calling advances the discussion.

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twins.fan   11/1/2012 10:51:47 AM
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Tam may be a very nice person.  But the corporate media, including Tam, has become shills to the fraud similar to that being spread by Vivek Wadhwa.

Vivek Wadhwa is a shill, conducting studies with predetermined conclusions to the benefit of his sponsors, who are the executives of the largest Indian H-1B body shops in the world, companies that are stealing our jobs and taking those jobs back to India.

And the corporate media, including Tam, report the story like it is real news instead of the corporate propaganda that it really is. There is no objectivity coming out of this story.  Objectivity requires work.  This story is not journalism.  This is stenograpy.

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Barbara Jorgensen   11/1/2012 10:15:57 AM
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Thanks, Pundit. Now we are getting somewhere. Facts are often inconvenient, but should not be ignored.

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Perturbed Pundit   11/1/2012 10:03:47 AM
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"let's examine the facts"

The Indus Entrepreneurs (TiE), was founded in 1992 in Silicon Valley by a group of successful entrepreneurs, corporate executives, and senior professionals with roots in the Indus region.

Wadhwa is a chapter founder of a TiE group in his locality, he has a background in offshoring to India, and he clearly is interested in growth and entrepreneurship between India and the US.  The leaders of TiE are "who's who" of India's executive class.

I'm not criticizing his participation in this business group.  I am however criticizing his ability to produce quality research free from outside influence.

Regarding the companies he founded, an infamous Vivek Wadhwa quote will give the reader a glimpse into Wadhwa's motivations.  In a CIO article by Stephanie Overby entitled, "The Next Wave of Globalization: Offshoring R&D to India and China" dated Wednesday, October 31st, 2007, Wadhwa is quoted as saying, "I was one of the first [CEOs] to outsource software development to Russia in the early '90s. I was one of the first [CEOs] to use H-1B visas to bring workers to the U.S.A.," Wadhwa says. "Why did I do that? Because it was cheaper."  Wadhwa knows what occurs, he complains about flawed immigration policy, yet he is a champion of a visa program that is a key part of the problem and that REQUIRES most of them go go home. Whadwa represents corporate interests, and more precisely the interests of Indian corporations and the offshoring model.

The fact that he is (said to be) the Director of Research at the Center for Entrepreneurship and Research Commercialization at Duke University is an affront to anyone who really cares about the sanctity of research.  A director of research in academia should be a true researcher, not someone with a corporate agenda.

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Barbara Jorgensen   11/1/2012 9:37:23 AM
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@twinsfan: I can't speak for Wadwha's credentials, but I can speak for the author's. Tam Harbert is one of the most experienced journalists I know in the high-tech business and has been acknowledged as such from organizations such as the Jesse H. Neal Awards. See http://tamharbert.com/.

As for your points about Whadwa, I will personally do some more digging so I can intelligently respond.

EBN has done its diligence on H1B: please see http://www.ebnonline.com/author.asp?section_id=1071&doc_id=241508. We acknowledge its flaws. But can we really blame the people that apply for these jobs when US corporations take advantage of H1-B and tax loopholes that keep revenue offshore?

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twins.fan   10/31/2012 7:55:43 PM
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If you would like to have a more enlightened coversation, the first step would be for the authors of your articles to be more familiar with the facts.

Vivek Wadhwa is a shill, a shill for the Indian H1B body shops that are offshoring jobs to India.  His credentials are so superficial that any competent journalist could expose his fraud with just the slightest amount of research.

Wadhwa claims to be an entrepreneur.  My first question is "Where was Vivek Wadhwa an entrpreneur?" For what company was Vivek Wadhwa an entrepreneur?  Those two questions are fair questions.  The author of this story and the other corporate propaganda should have already asked those questions and provided the readers with the answers.

Now lets address the editorial claim that India is not the only source of workers using H-1B visas. India is the source of somewhere between one half and two thirds of the total number of H-1B visas.  India is the only sourse of Indian H1B body shops, like Tata, like Infosys, like Cognizant, like Satyam, like HCL, like IBM India, etc.  The list goes on and on.

Again recipients of H1B visas are not "highly skilled" workers. They are REPLACEMENT workers. In fact 94% of the H1B visa recipients are not even "Fully Competent" according to the GAO. In 2011, the GAO concluded that a mere 6% of the recipients of the H-1B visas are "Fully Competent." The GAO also found that a staggering 54% of the recipients of the H-1B visas are "Entry Level" workers. And disenfranchised US STEM workers were required to train their replacements in order to receive their severence package.

This corporate propaganda completely ignored these facts, because the author is totally unqualified to author a report on this issue.  She is merely reciting corporate propaganda.

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Vivek's return
Barbara Jorgensen   10/31/2012 6:53:24 PM
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Readers: We appreciate your continued readership and commentary on EBN. We hope to enlighten our readers through informed opinion and respectful discussion. We'd also like to avoid personal attacks on our contributors, editors and sources. The information presented regarding Wadwah's book is part research and part opinion, and his credentials are a matter of record. Let's have a discussion on the companies he founded and the objections that readers raise. It's an important part of putting the book in context, and let's examine the facts.

For example, India is not  the the only source of H1B visa applicants; can we talk about other regions, corporations and some of the issues? How can some of the loopholes be avoided, and are there active bills in Congress that address these issues?

 

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