How Many Vulnerable Points Can the Smart Grid Have?

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syedzunair
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syedzunair   7/12/2012 10:57:26 AM
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Michell, 

Server end security is more sophisticated and requires much more work than user end security. It is important to protect that part of the cycle because all the information may be accessed if a server has been hacked into. 

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Michell Prunty   7/5/2012 1:39:41 AM
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@ syedzunair 

Vulnerabilities from a consumer's end are only a part of the problem.  We can add as many layers of security as we want on the consumer end, and that will never solve the problem.  It will just waste money and anger the customers.  The bigger threat, which Freescale's solution is directed towards, in on the server end. 

Credential stealing on that end can be as simple as someone accidentally downloading a behind-the-curtain keylogger to get as many passwords as possible.  Those passwords can then be used to open up other secure networks.  (or steal Sony PS3 passwords... or linkedin passwords... or government passwords?)

IMO, security should be focused on those types of security breaches that can bring down regional communication or power supplies.  Those security breaches don't come from the random transactions we make on our cell phones. 

Minimizing damage doesn't mean stopping the intrusion – it means minimizing how much theft can occur once the hacker is inside, and that's what Freescale's solution does. 

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syedzunair   7/4/2012 3:56:43 PM
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Michelle, it seems difficult to prevent credential theft because every user is exposed to threats ona regular basis. A mechanism that would help to reduce the theft impact could be to go for an additional layer of security when performing transactions. 

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mfbertozzi   7/4/2012 3:31:58 AM
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That's right, but going further I was thinking implication due to biometric smart for bypassing vulnerability at current stage; it seems real applications are still not widespread, imo benefits could be a lot.

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Jacob   7/4/2012 12:49:35 AM
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Credential stealing is so common in most of the sector, irrespective of it's a software or hardware. So far no tamper proof solutions are available, but there should be some mechanisms to minimize the user's bad experiences. Now a day's real-time token generation is also not safer because of many reasons.

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Barbara Jorgensen   7/2/2012 5:35:53 PM
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I've always been leery about the consumer market and smart technology. "Smart" seems to add a layer of uncertainty that hardwired plain-old-systems don't have to face (yet.) I also agree that focusing on the infrastructure is where the attention should be. Although getting into the grid is possible through the consumer interface, breaking into the infrastructure can wreak so much more havoc. This week's experience with power failures and record high heat should remind us how dependent we are on energy and that a prolonged outage costs lives. If your e-mail goes down, it's an inconvenience. If you lose power...it's another story.

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Michell Prunty   7/2/2012 12:25:22 PM
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@Cryptoman

Absolutely - which is why its better to stop worrying about stopping all threats (because that's impossible) and instead worry about minimizing the damage. 

Credential stealing is one place that designers can look to in order to minimize the data theft, but every single person using the system is a vulnerability so it's a tough order. 


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Cryptoman   7/2/2012 11:02:41 AM
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As impressive as Freescale's solution may sound (and that is not eh only one of its kind), the fact that attack techniques progress in parallel to the protection mechanisms remains and that is what makes security a difficult problem to solve.

The difficulty in designing effective security mechanisms is mainly because of the fact that a designer has to factor in all possible threats, which is a very difficult task. While a designer may put in a lot of effort say to tamper proofing a device, an attacker that sits on the opposite side of the planet may develop methods to perform a remote attack that can be successful whilst maintaining his anonimity as well!

Tamper proofing is a brilliant marketing tool because most of us think about security in terms of tangible concepts such as a big safe with a huge lock on it or a door with 10 locks. As long as one provides a 'sense of security' to an average customer, a sale is almost guaranteed. The customer usually sleeps comfortably until something goes wrong.

An attacker never challenges a system via its strongest point. A successful attacker is the one who is able to identify the weakest point in the system where he performs the attack. The key question is 'Has the designer accounted for all possible threats?'

I must also add that a security system designer's job is much more difficult compared to an attacker. This is because a designer has to ensure that the system is protected against ALL attacks. However, an attacker has to find only ONE weakness to exploit and only needs to crack the system ONCE to be successful.

 



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