The Art of Pricing

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Ken Bradley
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Re: Credit is always two way
Ken Bradley   2/4/2011 8:16:37 AM
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I have two thoughts on credit balancing. The first is that, as a supplier, one is lending on price whereas, as a customer, one is borrowing on cost. Depending on a company’s margin this could be a 3X difference making balancing difficult. The second thought is that attempts at balancing may work in the middle of a supply chain but not at the end. In the telecom example, operating companies are not extending credit to customers but they are demanding long payment terms from suppliers. Try getting 120 day payment terms on your phone bill! The balance equation falls apart here.

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mfbertozzi   2/4/2011 4:15:30 AM
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I agree with positions telling about extra-costs in delaying payment and two way credit. The art of pricing found pragmatic applications by firms which have tried to setup a pervasive negotiation process within the whole ecosystem involved in their business instead of a limited one-to-one process with each one supplier or buyer. Since the beginning Apple applied exactly that strategy.
Then the question is: it is a path still valid abroad take in consideration how is uncertainty financial and political situation in such regions?

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Re: Credit is always two way
Toms   2/4/2011 3:14:25 AM
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    Ken, that’s purely depends up on the pricing policy of companies and negotiation power of customers. I know some companies which have a fair pricing policy with the vendors. That means if you are going for ready cash purchase, then only you can avail the negotiated price, otherwise they will start the discussion on MRP pricing policy. If the vendors are agreeing for MRP, they have time till 125 days without interest components.  Even some companies are offering guarantees against the credit notes of vendors.

    One way it’s good for both the companies and vendors, they will get enough time for rolling and arranging the money. At the same time, one side (companies or vendors) are increasing their profit with others cost. It’s all marketing strategy and a chain process and may continue still they have faith and trust on each other.

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Credit is always two way
prabhakar_deosthali   2/4/2011 1:02:55 AM
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For any company when it asks for credit from its suppliers, it has to extend similar credit to its dealers or distributors. If a fine balance is struck between your creditors and debtors then the duration of the credit does not matter , whetehr it is 30 days or 120 days. Many companies try to charge interest on delayed receipts but are unwilling to pay interest on delayed payments to their vendors. This creates a skew in their financial policy and long term it harms the company's business. Hence the supply chain professionals of any company should work hand in hand with their sales people to match the  Credit given vs the credit asked for. The top managment must play the middleman's role to strike this balance of payments.

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The art of pricing
Barbara Jorgensen   2/3/2011 11:56:41 PM
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I don't think a lot of folks in the industry appreciate the costs associated with waiting for payment. Distributors--which extended credit to customers during the downturn when no one else would--have long complained that terms vary from 30 days to 160 days. It costs money to lend money and in the electronics supply chian it doesn't seem like there is a mechanism built in to account for that. How about an incentive to pay in 30 days or less? Does anyone offer that?

Ken Bradley
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Ken Bradley   2/3/2011 3:30:12 PM
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Anandvy, it is hard not to be impressed by what Apple has achieved.

I agree that any supplier aware of Apples story would want to be on their vendor list assuming that they can come to agreement on price.

Apple is a great company and uses many effective approaches in their supply chain. Apple is an excellent example of a company with both differentiation and cost control.

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Re : The Art of Pricing
anandvy   2/3/2011 3:18:15 PM
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Ken Bradle,

 Dont you think Apple has started using the third stratergy (Sell your company’s success path to the supplier) recently? 


http://www.ebnonline.com/author.asp?section_id=1071&doc_id=203635&

 

 

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Re: pricing
Ariella   2/3/2011 1:29:31 PM
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120 days is a very long time to wait for payment.  I would rather have the payment in earlier -- even at a discount of 5- 10%.

Ken Bradley
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Ken Bradley   2/3/2011 1:11:47 PM
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Ariella, net 30 days is still used but I wouldn’t call it a standard.

Many companies, particularly OEMs in telecommunications, have been pushed by their customers to longer and longer payment terms. In telecommunications it is  to help offset the high cost burden of deploying networks. These OEM have likewise pushed longer terms to their suppliers. Terms of 120 days are not uncommon.

Astute companies take advantage of early payment discounts as well as reasonable payment days to get better pricing. Many companies, however, get cash constrained by their customers and lose out.

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Ariella   2/3/2011 12:09:02 PM
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Is the old standard of net 30 no longer used? It was common to add on a discount for payment within 10 days for that.   



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