Who Benefits From Component Price Secrecy?

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Barbara Jorgensen
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Barbara Jorgensen   5/31/2012 1:09:11 PM
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I just gave myself a "dope slap"--competition is of course a key factor in pricing. Thanks readers and Ken! Most components do have a healthy competitive environment. Which brings me to my next thought: DRAM. As players exit the market and/or go out of business, pricing fluctuates. Does anyone see DRAM prices increasing and stablizing as we see more Elipdas?

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Ken Bradley   5/31/2012 11:31:31 AM
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Barbara, Many of your readers partially answered the question you posed about explaining the huge discrepancy in price. I think I will make this topic of my next blog and address it in more detail but the term competitive explains a lot. Competitive environments have better pricing. Things that make markets less competitive tend to enable higher prices. Things that diminish competitiveness like single sourcing, industry regulations (like in medical) making component substitution difficult and military approvals lead to higher price environments. I remember examples of very expensive hammers and toilet seat lids being sold to the military. Also when companies focus on cost, they also get better pricing.

When we benchmark in Freebechmarking.com, we try to set conditions so that we are doing as best as possible apples for apples comparisons and not including other value added services. We see wide discrepancies in price for essentially the same things.

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stochastic excursion   5/31/2012 2:11:23 AM
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I read somewhere that price tends to locate itself somewhere around cost of goods plus a margin prevailing in the industry.  For a monopoly or niche player, though, the margin can be more aggressive.

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Anna young   5/30/2012 7:41:13 PM
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Fascinating! I'm curious to know, what then determines the price of the electronics component? And how can this be made transparent? 

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TIOLUWA   5/30/2012 8:00:12 AM
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I think competition is quite high in the components industry, we have a good number of major players, all manufacturing the same of similar products, so i don't think it is the major determining factor in component pricing.

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FLYINGSCOT   5/30/2012 7:31:49 AM
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I see prices set firstly by the competitive landscape.  If there is no competition then it is set by the price the customer can bear.  After that is is the GM requirement of the supplier.  I do tend to agree that the prive-volume relationship is not a hard and fast one.

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TIOLUWA   5/30/2012 1:45:23 AM
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Interesting thought here,

but I'm asking the same question as Barbara:

So what determines price is Volume is not the key factor.

It seems that many markets are being controlled by assumptions.

Many used to attribute China's low manufacturing costs to cheap labor, but facts coming out is teaching us otherwise.

So in the this case, what really are the factors that determine price?

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_hm   5/29/2012 9:29:08 PM
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@Barbara: I concur with you. It is difficult to comprehend this new concept. But it is nice to know that they do work in real world. 90% of time volume/price works. In 10% special opportunity, you get much better deal and you can grab it if you have money power. But in geenral it sholud be volume Vs price.

 

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Hospice_Houngbo   5/29/2012 2:11:36 PM
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Hi Ken,

 

 

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Barbara Jorgensen   5/29/2012 1:04:38 PM
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I'll admit I'm having a tough time separating myself from the volume/pricing mindset. As you point out, transparency is key. Now, when auto shopping, you don't even go to the dealer until you have researched everything about the car online. That has been a huge value to customers.

Just curious: If you eliminate the volume-pricing equation, how do companies explain huge discrepancies in price? I'm sure there are services involved, but what are some of the other factors?



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