Lighting: Primed for Transition

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zullo@arrow
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RE: LIGHTING:primed for Transition
zullo@arrow   3/1/2011 2:20:54 PM
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Adeniji,

With SSL currently representing a small percentage (approximately 5% according to industry sources) of the overall general lighting market, there is still tremendous growth upside for SSL to penetrate existing lighting applications.  In addition, continued advancements in LED technology will continue to open new applications that may not be on the radar screen today.

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zullo@arrow   3/1/2011 2:17:04 PM
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Barbara,

While LED based consumer products have been on the shelves of big box retailers for some time, it has been hard for the average consumer to understand what is a quality product and how it compares against traditional light sources.  That said, the technology, performance, pricing and even product labeling is enabling better quality products to make their way to store shelves and accelerating adoption.

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Backorder   2/28/2011 1:21:36 PM
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Some of the comments point out that the lifetime is not really a USP of LED, I would disagree. While, It might not be that great a value proposition for a lay consumer, we need to understand that the growth that any such industry targets is not through replacements but through more applications. Industrial applications, street lighting, bay lighting, decorative lighting, Transport system, Hotel Industry all of them see a great value in lights that wont fail! Changing a couple of bulbs in our home might not be a big deal, but for large scale applications it could be a nuisance. Hence, a long lifetime for LEDs as well as the electronics is essential if it has to be successful in all the new application areas.

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Re: What is meant by life-time
prabhakar_deosthali   2/28/2011 4:15:40 AM
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The point I wanted  to make here is that the product designers should not now concentrate on increasing the life time of the product beyound a certain limit. This will greatly reduce the cost of the endurance testing, the cost of the material used and the time to market a product.  When Chinese or Japanese or koreans bring new products into the market at much cheaper cost they provide products with limited life time and in this everchanging world nobody wants to keep a product for life time even if is still good. Americans and Europians have a lesson or two learn from here.

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Himanshugupta   2/25/2011 8:28:13 AM
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Prabhakar, i agree with your opinions. Lifetime is not an issue as long as we can afford the new. The classic examples are in the electronics industry itself and you mentioned some of them.

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Himanshugupta   2/25/2011 8:25:41 AM
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jbond, although you have an excellent point that manufacturers will not like if a single light runs for years. But lifetime has never been a problem to growth. As the LED will consume less energy and can open up other possibilities of usage, i am sure that growth will be sustained. For example, a pair of jeans lasts for years but we still have more than one pair and we throw them away even if they are not torn apart. We go for new, fancy ones. Another example are mobile phones, TVs and other electronics. We replace them much before their breaking point.

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hwong   2/25/2011 12:25:46 AM
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Life time is just a selling theme. In reality, it is not good to buy something and not having to replace ever. If everyone doesn't buy new things, then the business will not thrive and money will not be made.

But LEDs are great. Saves energy and good for environment and pretty neat looking too.

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prabhakar_deosthali   2/24/2011 10:13:00 AM
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In todays world of everchanging technology , the word life-time does not make much sense. In the last two decades there have been many products which would have lasted our life-time but still we threw them in the junk yards just because something totally new just replaced them. My Kodak film camera worked for me for 20 years and was still in a very good working condition and would have lasted my life time but I put it into my junk box because the totally new digital version is much better. Same thing must have happened to those rugged Nokia mobile handsets owned by many. Same thing will happen to the SSL. There will be new versions , new materials, new form factors and the consumers will be forced to throw the old things to keep up with times. And the promise of 50000 hours of life will never be tested in practice.

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stochastic excursion   2/23/2011 11:33:15 AM
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As lighting technology advances from setting things on fire to incandescent bulbs and potentially to LED's, it's inevitable that the market for lighting will be less and less active--mature, you might say.  Holding this as a barrier to the technology doesn't make sense in the long run when you consider the benefits to be reaped.  SSL fixtures would be like housing materials, a piece of sheetrock that has the added features of illumination.  Maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but sheetrock is a result of innovation and some R&D--it's more than just gypsum and water I believe, yet you don't replace it every six months and people do make their livelihood making and selling it.

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RE: LIGHTING:primed for Transition
Adeniji Kayode   2/23/2011 7:55:17 AM
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In which way or form do maufacturers of LED plan to make profit if their product could last a life time?


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