iPhone vs. iFone: Apple Loses Appeal in Mexico

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WaqasAltaf
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Re: Creative use of name in a free market
WaqasAltaf   4/13/2013 3:02:23 AM
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@ Susan

Losing in appeal means no legal grounds are left for Apple to fight on. One way I could think of is that Apple uses its lobbying power and convinces the Mexican government regarding the issue. Government can then pursue the matter in supreme court and relieve Apple from the hardships.

Will be waiting for an update.

cookiejar
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cookiejar   4/7/2013 10:31:09 AM
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Apple no doubt has a flotilla of lawyers working hard to bash their competitors as well as defend Apple's trademarks. 

It doesn't take a law degree to figure out that one needs to trademark a product name well before it is introduced.  If someone registers a name well before you, making your name unregisterable, well you're out of luck. It's no more stealing than if someone buys a house you've had your eye on before you get around to it.  It's called the free market. 

Don't get confused by the corporate sector's tendency to use "the free market" as a euphemism for monopoly.

So just like Apple, iFone has the right to charge what the market will bear for it's intellectual property, which it has legally registered.  What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Re: Creative use of name in a free market
tirlapur   4/7/2013 4:41:11 AM
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Perhaps Apple should just partner with iFone for a win-win relationship.

@t.alex, that is not a bad idea, but iFone is already demanding  40 percent of Apple's iPhone sales in Mexico for violation of property rights which is very huge. I dont think Apple will agree to share its profit with any other company.

tirlapur
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Re: I am not an Apple Fan but You are right about this issue.
tirlapur   4/7/2013 4:37:48 AM
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Rwanda gov has embarked on massive fiber optical cable projects as well as other infrastructure. 

@Wale, thanks for sharing this info. Its great to know that government across Africa are investing heavily on infrastructure. I am sure we will see lot more innovation happening in African because of such initiatives taken by the local governments. 

tirlapur
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tirlapur   4/7/2013 4:33:24 AM
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Apple, the mightiest U.S. corporation, through its own neglect failed to register iPhone before a Mexican company registered iFone

@cookiejar, thanks for sharing this info. Any particular reason why Apple failed to register iPhone before a Mexican company registered iFone ? Was it because iPhone totally underestimated potential of Mexican market and just neglected it ?

William K.
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Re: So how about a different name Xiphone
William K.   4/3/2013 8:05:01 PM
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OXXO sounds the way it does because, at least in Mexico, the first X is pronounced "HAH", while the second X has a "k" sound, and the ending O is more like an "A". Far less confusing than our USA version of :english", and it makes a great logo for a grocery store. 

Probably someone who is native to that area can give you a more detailed explanation, but that is the one that I got when I learned "Mexican" for business a few years back.

t.alex
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Re: Creative use of name in a free market
t.alex   4/3/2013 8:05:00 PM
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Susan, well perhaps Apple should engage iFone to sell iPhone as well :-)

 

cookiejar
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cookiejar   4/3/2013 3:53:57 PM
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The author seems to be saying that might makes right. 

Apple, the mightiest U.S. corporation, through its own neglect failed to register iPhone before a Mexican company registered iFone.  How do you figure the mighty Apple has any ethical right to crush the smaller Mexican company?

Apple Computer had trouble registering its own name in the first place, as the Beetles (at the time said to be bigger than Jesus Christ) objected as their music property and record company was registered as Apple, years before Jobs had the idea, no doubt looking at a Beetles' album cover.  But of course Apple scoffed at the idea that it would ever be in the music business and promised it wouldn't go there.  iTunes broke that promise and for years no Beetles music appeared on iTunes.  But in the end, nobody can afford to fight Apple in U.S. courts and the Beetles surrendered.

It can be argued that Apple stole the i prefex from intel, who always uses the lower case i for its labels.

Apple steals disks from Zerox Park and brings out the MacIntosh computer, stealing Zerox's graphics interface, mouse and all and sicks its lawyers on anyone who dares in any way imitate their stolen ideas. 

Apple goes after Samsung in a courtroom a few blocks from Apple headquarters and manages to get a jury head who had close contacts with Apple and all the jurors from Silicon Valley.  Apple even had the gall to go after Samsung for rounded corners, which only an idiot would agree is an Apple original concept.

Apple's behavior in the market is a shining example of "Ugly American".

tech4people
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Re: I am not an Apple Fan but You are right about this issue.
tech4people   4/3/2013 3:04:31 PM
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Wale,

As a Matter of Fact you are absolutely right here.

Rwanada is definitely spearheading the IT Revolution in Africa today;But I was referring to it from the Point of View of Susan[She's a White Expat Woman who speaks only English and Some European Languages].

In such a sceanario it makes more sense for her to go to places where things are Reasonably Safe , they speak Reasonably Good English and most Administrative Systems work as well as Being at the Forefront of Technological Change in Africa.

And Kenya fits the Bill here.

I would'nt recommend her going to Nigeria because European Expats routinely Get Kidnapped for Money there.

 

Susan Fourtané
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Re: Creative use of name in a free market
Susan Fourtané   4/3/2013 1:20:02 PM
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Taimoor, 

"It would create a mess for Apple if some other company with the same pronunciation exists. If Apple advertises, the other company gets a publicity for nothing because of this. "

Yes. Good point. That's something to worry about for any company. 

-Susan

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