Samsung's Phone Ad Crosses a Line

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Who's Throwing Stones
TomMurphy   5/21/2013 6:53:23 PM
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Susan: Maybe my memory is faulty, but don't I recall that Apple started this ad war with the "I'm a Mac" ads that made fun of PC people?  Don't you think that turn-about is fair play?  I find the Samsung ads kind of funny in the same way the Apple ads were -- and let's face it, the iPhone is falling behind a bit (so, no, I don't really think it's the cooler device anymore). 

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Susan Fourtané   5/22/2013 8:21:03 AM
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Tom, 

". . . don't I recall that Apple started this ad war with the "I'm a Mac" ads that made fun of PC people?"

I remembered the "I'm a Mac - I'm a PC" ads when writing this piece. I went back to see the ads. I didn't see Mac making fun of PC's users, though. :/

It was all about making statements of what they could do, both Mac and PC. They were funny, especially if your PC had gone through some or all of the things that happened to the PC character. :D 

Here they are. :) 

-Susan

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Eldredge   5/22/2013 8:47:50 AM
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@Susan - I think the Mac commercials were much more in-your-face than this Samsung commercial. Other than that, I don't see much difference....

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tech4people   5/22/2013 12:34:09 PM
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Eldregde,

I agree with your sentiments entirely.

It hardly matters now who started this Mud-slinging campaign.

Bottom-line is both do it.

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tech4people   5/22/2013 12:36:59 PM
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Susan,

Why can't they just focus on Delivering the Best Wow Factor Product instead of this Wastage of Precious Cash?

Remember at the end of the day-The Best Advertising is Word of Mouth.

You can't beat the Power of Word of Mouth anywhere,Anytime.

Regards

Ashish.

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SP   5/22/2013 2:25:47 PM
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If you closely watch Samsung's advertisements, it has been showing other competitors in bad light. Also everyone knows that they just copy Apple and are in race with them. Here there has been commercials going on where the guy goes for lunch and buys a samsung s4 with 0 cost using credit card. Dont know who they are trying to fool.

Anyway the feature of phone understanng eye and nodding language of human being seems interesting.

 

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Ariella   5/22/2013 2:30:41 PM
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AsWell, Samsung may have just put itself in a bad light with its latest commercial

As you can tell from the reactions on YouTube, not everyone sees this as an inducement to buy the Samsung brand. 



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tech4people   5/22/2013 3:01:45 PM
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Ariella,

I have'nt seen the ad(will take your word for it);but was wondering something much more basic.

When you have a Reasonably good product(in which you have confidence);why Don't you let Word of Mouth Advertising do the Talking Here?

It seems extremely stupid (&enormously wasteful) to run Tasteless ads which just have the potential to turn off your Consumer-Base.

Your Thoughts?

 

Ashish.

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Ariella   5/22/2013 3:26:30 PM
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@Ashish I believe that sometimes businesses lose sight of the forest for the trees, The forest in this case is customer interest and the trees are attention-getting ads. Here's a great cartoon illustration: 

As for relying on word of mouth, well, there's this Sorry, you'll have to click over to see because I can't get the image to appear in this box. 

 

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tech4people   5/22/2013 3:34:09 PM
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Ariella,

What did I tell you?

You always make more sense than the Mumbo-Jumbo these Companies come out with in the name of "Buzzwords" or "strategic Moves".

I have a feeling you missed something you wanted to add in your last post-Care to elaborate?

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Ariella   5/22/2013 3:47:54 PM
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@Ashish the cartoons are very eloquent on the point. Unfortunately, I coudl nto get them to appear here and so had to only include the links to them. Word of mouth advertising is hard to stimulate and to channel. So few large companies really rely on it to take the place of their own planned marketing campaigns. 

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tech4people   5/22/2013 3:57:38 PM
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Areiella,

Basically what you are trying to say is all the Marketing and Advertising people in a company have to earn their Salaries ;even if it means by running Campaigns which are sure to infuriate as many people as possible.

Who was the smart dude who said that-"There is no Good/Bad Publicity.There is only Publicity,"

Its a Pathetic philosophy.

Great Cartoon btw.

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Ariella   5/22/2013 4:00:56 PM
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Thank you, Ashish. Yes, I do believe that there is such a thing as bad publicity, though some believe that being hated is still better than being ignored. 

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tech4people   5/22/2013 4:06:15 PM
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Ariella,

Don' worry.

You won't find my name anywhere in that List!

LOL!

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Ariella   5/22/2013 4:09:55 PM
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@Ashish you are unignorable! 

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tech4people   5/22/2013 4:13:06 PM
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Wow Ariella!

You are actually the Second Person to say that to me today.

Must be Doing Something Right?

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Ariella   5/22/2013 4:14:19 PM
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@Ashish definitely!

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tech4people   5/22/2013 2:36:31 PM
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SP,

Apologies for stoppping you mid-stream;but when you mention-"Here they are running ads selling S4 for 0" ;where exactly are you referring to?

Also,if you look strictly at the Patent Lawsuit Battles which have been settled currently as a reasonably accurate indicator of Innovation;Its currently 60-40 to Samsung.

Even if Apple has the Innovation ;One does'nt see in their products anymore.

Its just Apple Fan Boys one after another.

Need more Proof?

Watch this extremely funny(but thought-provoking) Video from the Superstar Comedian Jimmy Kimmel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rdIWKytq_q4

 

I am sure it will definitely make you change your mind.

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Everything is fair in love and war
_hm   5/21/2013 7:09:04 PM
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Everything is fair in love and war. Let consumer be judge and let them get the best out of situation. Let them fight and reduce price.

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TomMurphy   5/21/2013 7:31:15 PM

_hm: I like the way you think!  Smartphones cost too much! And so does the service!

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Susan Fourtané   5/22/2013 4:57:21 AM
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Lol, _hm! :D 

I don't see they are lowering the price, do you? Consumers are the ones who should be comparing phones, I believe. Of course every company considers their own products the best in the market. 

-Susan

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_hm   5/22/2013 6:07:19 PM
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@Susan: If Samsung keeps this type of pressure on Apple, Apple will eventually succumb to pressure and reduce price for iPhones. If you repeat same story few times, other party starts thinking that to be true. It will be interesting to wait for Apple response.

 

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Lily   5/21/2013 11:18:55 PM
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Susan, I also don't agree with Samsung's promotion method. But I think you show partiality toward Apple. Maybe for Galaxy's fans, iPhone 5's price is also very high and not worth the price. 

As for their competition, consumers will finally decide the winner. 

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Susan Fourtané   5/22/2013 5:51:57 AM
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Lily, 

This is not about Apple or the iPhone. It's about an observation on Samsung's marketing strategy, despite its new product shouldn't need such push.

"But I think you show partiality toward Apple."

I don't think so. I believe I am being impartial here, and quite objective. I haven't seen any Apple's commercial mocking a competitor's users. And again, this is not about Apple. 

"Maybe for Galaxy's fans, iPhone 5's price is also very high and not worth the price."

Galaxy fans are not even going to consider an iPhone. In the same way an Apple fan is not going to consider a Galaxy. Of course then there are users who switch, which is fine. That's another story, as here you are talking about fans, not just users.

You always seem to bring the price of the iPhone up. If you want to look at the price:

Starting price: iPhone 5 16G = $650, Galaxy S4 16G = $700

Where do you see the iPhone is more expensive than the Galaxy? 

-Susan 

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prabhakar_deosthali   5/22/2013 2:09:38 AM
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In my opinion , the Ads that compare the product features with the competitors' on the basis of the actual facts cannot be called as unethical.

The Ads that show some magical benefits ( like a person eating some chewing-gum feeling so cool as if he is under a heavy snowfall) are not ethical.

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elctrnx_lyf   5/22/2013 2:45:39 AM
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Is it really unethical to compare the products, I don't think so. There is lot of effort and creativity put into to make such marketing campaign to compare the features. But if there is something inflated more than the actual the consumers should be esily able to understand and make a decision while purchase product.

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Susan Fourtané   5/22/2013 3:01:06 AM
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elctrnx_lyf 

What I argue is the way Samsung went beyond comparing products. It enterered the territory of mocking users, who are not part of the war of the smartphones.

Maybe for some it's subtle, but the mocking is there, and works at subconscious level in the consumer. There is a subliminal message. Try to be impartial, and tell me, after watching the commercial which phone do you want to buy, and why? 

-Susan

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Susan Fourtané   5/22/2013 3:22:19 AM
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Prabhakar, 

"Ads that compare the product features with the competitors' on the basis of the actual facts cannot be called as unethical." 

In this case the ad went beyond comparing products. It's mocking the competitor's users. As I said below, consumers have nothing to do with the war of the manufacturers. 

I also question the need of the companies for comparing products as a marketing strategy. Shouldn't they limit themselves to show the qualities and advantages of their products only instead, leaving consumers the task of comparing before making the purchase decision? 

Do you think I am wrong here? 

You know, I have started to think that these campaigns have become so powerful that it's as if they were hyptonizing consumers. :(

-Susan 

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Susan,

I still feel there is nothing unethical in Samsung's Ad.

The marketing campaigns are like wars or in today's world we can compare them with the political campaigns .

And nothing strikes more with the target audience than a satire or kind of a mockery ( as you say) .

Just hitting hard with bare facts does not work many times. Only the knowledgeable consumers will be able to understand them

Even here in India I saw an Ad of a dual SIM smartphone where a young girl ridicules an elderly person who is handling two not so smart phones at a time  to manage his work. Here I saw a message for the older generation to move over to the newer generation of phones - So it does not mock at them but mocks at their older way of working.

 

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Wale Bakare   5/22/2013 8:17:57 AM
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I agree with you - the advert is OK. Meanwhile, smartphone markets being currently full of stratagem, i think. Let us see how many punches all these competitors could throw as the smartphone markets developing daily - mobility. 

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Eldredge   5/22/2013 8:44:31 AM
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@Prabhakar - I agree. Comparing a product to 'brand X' and showing it's superiority is as old as the hills in advertising. I thin kthey used some clever ways to show their features.

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is sneering new marketing gimmick now
Himanshugupta   5/23/2013 2:27:29 AM
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I personally do not like ads making fun of others. I think it just shows the inferiority complex in you. There have been news doing the rounds that Samsung has been paying bloggers and students to write bad reviews for competitor's smartphones. This is just plain stupidity. Its Samsung thinks that its smartphones are way cool and way better than others then leave it so. 

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Jacob   5/23/2013 3:22:01 AM
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"I personally do not like ads making fun of others. I think it just shows the inferiority complex in you."

Himanshu, for a fun such things are ok and enjoyable.  But I don't like to hurt anyone's sentiments in any form with words or actions or even indirectly.

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Jacob   5/23/2013 3:18:42 AM
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"As a consumer, you might find these commercials funny at the beginning. But will they affect consumer behavior?'

Susan, due to heavy competition, companies may adopt different strategies for marketing their products. In most cases they may try to say about something superior than their competitors in a gentle way. But I know that in certain cases they may make fun about competitors too. Whether we have to take it serious or just as fun, depends up on the viewers.



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