Do Legislators Understand the Electronics Supply Chain?

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garyk
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Re: Not IDEA First - Authorized First
garyk   9/13/2011 7:52:41 PM
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The Govenment can't get envolved it will take for ever, they have bigger problems.

According to the 2010 survey reported by jhowarth the buyers must buy diectly form OCM's, OEM's and authorized Disributors, not brokers, independent distributors or gray market. It has already beem evalauted, what more can be done, police your self, report the offenders.

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Ariella   9/13/2011 3:07:32 PM
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I don't know, but it seems to me that the money would not quite flow in that way. I mean the ones who are losing money through counterfeit parts are not likely to volunteer to subsidize a government agency that will provide funds for companies that get certified.

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paul.pacini   9/13/2011 1:57:54 PM
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@ Ariella

You bring up great points, but I have to wonder if those start-up and operation costs wouldn't be offset by a reduced cost of business not having to deal with counterfeit parts? If companies are losing money through engineering costs, product failures, etc. might the extra expense (sorry bean counters, back off on this one) would be justified?

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Re: Not IDEA First - Authorized First
Ariella   9/13/2011 1:06:03 PM
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"Startups and others that want to get certified but can't afford the costs involved could perhaps receive underwriting from yet unformed government agencies." I'm wondering where the funds are supposed to come from for this. If whole agencies have to be formed, there would be quite a bit of cost for that component alone, but, on the upside, some jobs would be created.

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jbond   9/13/2011 12:24:26 PM
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I think the legislation is a step in the right direction, but don't think it is going to be enough to end counterfeiting. The legislators need to fully understand the process and specific organizations that are in place to help curb fakes. As long as the government doesn't rely on price alone, and chooses suppliers who are members of organizations designed to stop counterfeiting, there will always be criminals looking to make a buck. Unfortunately this time it comes from our tax dollars and at the possible expense of our defense.

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jhowarth   9/13/2011 12:11:18 PM
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At the request of the Naval /air Warfare Systems Command, the US Department of commerce Bureau of Industry and Security's (BIS) Office of Technology Evaluation (OTE) conducted a survey on counterfeit electronics in the US supply chain.

This 2010 survey summarized 240 pages of analysis this way: "Buy parts directly from OCMs and authorized distributors, rather than from parts brokers, independent distributors, or the gray market."

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Not IDEA First - Authorized First
ddeisz   9/13/2011 11:46:36 AM
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Authorized Distribution should be used FIRST when looking for parts for military and hi-rel systems. Authorized is the lowest risk above all when it comes to counterfeit. I would suggest looking at http://www.authorizeddirectory.com for the TRUE AUTHORIZED SOURCES FIRST before looking to IDEA. This is the solution recommended by all semiconductor companies and the first place anyone should look in the supply chain, especially for millitary and hi-rel systems.

Perhaps the first thing Legislators should understand is that buying from Authorized FIRST before going to Independent Distribution should be required and will eliminate a good percentage of counterfeit by itself. Only once the Authorized Sources have been exhausted should the Independent channel be consulted for military and hi-rel systems. Once using Independent Sources, military and hi-rel systems should have 100% component test (on a tester, powered up) and not just the predominantly visual checking being done today being done by the Independent Sources.

Dan Deisz

Rochester Electronics



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