Understanding Alternate Sourcing, Part 1

NO RATINGS
View comments: oldest first | newest first | threaded
Page 1 of 2   Next >   Last >>
_hm
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
Alternate sourcing
_hm   12/6/2011 7:05:20 PM
NO RATINGS

Another aspect is to employ industry standard components in your design to extend the life of product. Industry standard means the parts used by many many designers and is easily available from many vendors. It is art of designing complex circuit with conventionalm less expensive more popular parts.

 

Douglas Alexander
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Alternate sourcing
Douglas Alexander   12/6/2011 7:25:00 PM
NO RATINGS

_hm,

You will want to read Part 2 of this post as your comment is completely correct. I have a list of 8 key steps for identifying an alternate source. I will send you the PDF now if you want to give me your email.

Barbara Jorgensen
User Rank
Blogger
Alternate sourcing
Barbara Jorgensen   12/7/2011 10:31:23 AM
NO RATINGS

Great practical advice, as always! Having covered distribution for the better part of my career, I'm wondering if using a channel partner may also help in the selection of an alternative vendor/source. You may be covering that in Part 2, but I'd be remiss not to mention it :-)

The other thing that occurs to me is distribution may be the alternative source if a company buys direct from a component supplier.

arenasolutions
User Rank
Stock Keeper
Much needed advice
arenasolutions   12/7/2011 11:53:41 AM
NO RATINGS

Thanks for pointing out the difference between sole source and single source, I tend to use them interchangably. Whether due to an agreement or just lack of availability, it is scary when you know a critical component depends on the availability and reliability of one source. There have been too many natural disasters in the last few years for me to feel comfortable with that, but sometimes it's the only option. I read that in a recent Manufacturing Trends Survey 2/3 of manufacturers said they used single source components for critical parts of their product, so I guess in spite of the risks, it's something most people still find themselves doing. 

Brian75137
User Rank
Production Synthesizer
Alternate sources and channel partners
Brian75137   12/7/2011 3:56:57 PM
NO RATINGS

Without a Component Engineer (CE) being involved BEFORE the channel partner gets involved, there is a danger that the part received, might not be the exact part needed. Getting the CE involved early in the supply chain is better than going directly to the channel partner, because it is part of the CE's job to find and specify EXACTLY, in conjunction with the Design Engineer (DE), what the DE needs for the product to be produced.

This means that the CE should have produced a specification for the part, with all the required parameters defined.  This specification will be the controlling document to assure obtaining the "correct part", and should be what Procurement sends to the channel partner upon which to quote.

The CE should also, as part of doing his/her job, recommend alternate sources of procurement within the body of the specification, unless there is a specific reason why the part is to sole sourced.  If the part is to be sole sourced, then the specific reason for the sole source of the part should have a "sole source justification" which should be included as part of the procurement package so Procurement knows who will be able to supply the exact part needed and why an alternate cannot be used.

The military covers part procurement with a series of standardized component specifications (MIL SPECs), but even these sometimes need to be modified by writing a Specification Controlled Document (SCD) which includes the requirements of the MIL spec, but with exceptions or additions added, based upon the DE's specific needs.

Thus, the need for purchasing an adequate amounts of the part to support future builds of the product can be identified, and a decision can be made as to whether a redesign of the product is needed, using "newer" or "better" parts.  This decision should not be made when the amounts of the parts available in the company's stockroom is almost or completely depleted.  Reordering parts should be based upon the projected lifetime of the product, factoring in parts for repairs as well as for current and future production.

While channel partners have a lot of knowledge about the parts which they sell, they may not know about parts with specific design parameters required, and thus the need for the CE, in conjunction with the DE , to define exactly what is needed.  They may, however, be a good source of information about when a part is going to be discontinued by a part manufacturer (i.e. the part's End of Life (EOL)) (see also the paragraph above)

Lastly, if a specification is written and a reputable supplier is chosen, then the likelyhood of obtaining a counterfeit part is significantly reduced, but not completely eliminated.

Douglas Alexander
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Alternate sources and channel partners
Douglas Alexander   12/7/2011 7:23:57 PM
NO RATINGS

Brian, Good points. I really like the next to last paragraph reminding us that the DE may have specific needs not known by the channel partner when suggesting an alternative. One thing I think of immediately, is the key role the SRF specification, (self resonating frequency) for inductors has in an RF circuit where the circuit frequency, if close to the inductor's SRF, could render the inductor useless. Thanks Brian for a very salient comment.

Douglas Alexander
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Alternate sourcing
Douglas Alexander   12/7/2011 7:42:41 PM
NO RATINGS

Barbara, More often than not, a direct componet manufacturer will not sell diresct to a company without achieving a very high volume commitment. They can justify this position by stating that they do not want to undermine their own channels, either Rep firms or Distributors. So your point is very well taken. A sole source may indeed have a distribution channel, but if the sole OEM dries up, everyone goes down eventually. There is one strong argument for bonded inventory. When I was buying ASICs, I worked my way all the way back to the foundry and bonded at the wafer level with contractual agreements that I could drop in with 24 hour notice to verify the the agreed upon wafer inventory was on the shelf ready for packaging. And as this was also a custom BGA, I had the package house guarantee bonded inventory as well. I actually advise this precaution for all in house ASIC product where the foundry is off-site. Also, it is a good idea to track wafer production by lot numbers and process traveler progress to anticipate and react to ramp-up requirements. The less that is left to chance where a sole source is involved, the more assured the timely supply.

_hm
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
Re: Alternate sourcing
_hm   12/7/2011 8:39:57 PM
NO RATINGS

@Barbara: Regular email with parts update from channel partner is very good. To talk to them for looking for your part is good. Talking to many of them is better. However, sometime looking for simple connector takes whole week! No one elese other then DE or CE will place so much effort for it. System design or module design has so much resposibility and fun attached to it.

One seceret of searching novel parts is that you are looking solution for one problem - and you find resolution for your past problem or future need. I love this work.

 

Brian75137
User Rank
Production Synthesizer
Re: Alternate sourcing
Brian75137   12/7/2011 9:20:06 PM
NO RATINGS

@_hym:  I hope that you have now read my most recent comment.  Relying, solely, on channel partners (distributors) puts you in perilous waters.  You have to assume that they know EVERYTHING about the EXACT part you wish to use.  If they do not, you may end up with a part which looks and is specified as the part you want, but it may not wprk in your design.  If the CE and DE get together and come up with exactly what the DE needs, then a specification control drawing (SCD) is written and used to procure the part, if you have a situation where the part doesn't work properly you do have recourse.  You can  send the parts back to the supplier and either get them to send you replacement parts which comply FULLY with the requirements of your SCD, or you can get your money back and go to another (better) distributer for the part.

This is another reason why you should not wait until you run out of the part before ordering more.  If the part doesn't work properly in your circuit and you have to send it back, then if you order from another supplier, you have lost a lot of lead time.  This could have disasterous consequences.

This is why having a CE and a DE get together to come up with the exact requirements of the part and creating an SCD for it, is not necessarily a bad thing - more likely if it is a critical part, you could, possibly save a lot of money by using an SCD.  (Nail it down so that there is no question about the required parameters.)(better safe than sorry)

By the way, I'm not saying all this just to tout myself, I have over 35 years of CE experience from which to draw.  I've seen it all!

Regards

_hm
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
Re: Alternate sourcing
_hm   12/8/2011 6:15:57 AM
NO RATINGS

@Brian: I am more concerened about off-the-self low cost parts. Not the high cost custom parts. So SCD may not be that relelvant. I want to use something is available in market. For example, goto Yokowo Japan web page and look for spring connectors. They have wonderful spring loaded connectors I may like to use in my application. It does not cost much. If I write SCD and ask for component and price for similar product, it may be too high.

So basically one has to do intense search on internet to get appropriate part. Assumptioin is that, someone else has already solved problem before you and part is available from them as standard part.

Page 1 of 2   Next >   Last >>


More Blogs from Best-Practices
Companies fighting conflict mineral rules face an uphill battle. By embracing these rules, they can rebuild the public trust and please investors.
Radio frequency identification device technology is rapidly gaining interest by assuring the integrity of supply chains through rules-based management.
Increasing carrying capacity with giant oceangoing freighters can reduce shipping cost per 20-foot container by as much as 40 percent.
It’s reasonable to assume that tens of thousands of drones are coming soon to a neighborhood near you. How will they affect your privacy?
Machine-to-machine technology is growing so rapidly that one report says there could be 10 billion connected devices by 2016. That's a big market opportunity.

Datasheets.com Parts Search

185 million searchable parts
(please enter a part number or hit search to begin)
Latest Poll
EBN Dialogue / LIVE CHAT
Have a tête-à-tête with leaders & luminaries
EBN Dialogue enables and encourages you to participate in live chats with notable leaders and luminaries. Not only editors and journalists, but the entire EBN community is able to comment and ask questions. Listed below are upcoming and archived chats.
Archived Dialogues
Thailand Stages a Comeback
Join EBN contributor Jennifer Baljko on Thursday August 23, 2012, at 11:00 a.m. EST for a live chat on how electronic manufacturers in Thailand have shored up their supply chain to reduce the impact of future natural disasters.
Euro-Crisis: What It Means for High-Tech Firms
Join EBN Editor in Chief Bolaji Ojo and Contributing Editor Jennifer Baljko on Thursday, July 12, at 10:00 a.m. EDT for a Live Chat on high-tech and Europe's economic difficulties.
Microsoft Surface: Potential Winners & Losers
What are the implications for the electronics industry supply chain of Microsoft Corp.'s decision to launch its own tablet PC? Join industry veteran and EE Times' systems and OEM expert Rick Merritt on Tuesday, July 3, at 12:00 pm EDT for a Live Chat on this subject.
Latest EBN Dialogue
Join EBN contributor Jennifer Baljko on Thursday August 23, 2012, at 11:00 a.m. EST for a live chat on how electronic manufacturers in Thailand have shored up their supply chain to reduce the impact of future natural disasters.
READ DIALOGUE
Webinars
Upcoming Webinars
Date: 7/9/2013 11:00 a.m. eastern
Peter Drucker famously said "Trying to predict the future is like trying to drive down a country road at night with no lights while looking out the back window." Yet in the razor's-edge world of electronics—with a lean supply chain and just-in-time demands—the need to know the future is vital.
Archived Webinars
Date: 4/30/2013
You've heard the saying "the No. 1 supply chain risk is your people." That hasn't always been the case. But today's complex global supply chain requires a new type of multitalented employee. It's one who understands, finance, marketing, economics, is savvy with technology, graceful with relationships and can think analytically. Where are these people? Are universities properly preparing the next generation supply chain professionals? How do train your existing workforce for these new, demanding positions? Brian Fuller, editor-in-chief of EBN, will lead a 60-minute Avnet Velocity panel discussion that will ask and answer these and other questions swirling around today's supply-chain talent challenges.
EBN Newswire
MANSFIELD, TEXAS   3/12/2013
Mouser Receives Top Award from Harwin
SANTA CLARA, CALIF.   1/29/2013
UBM & Lytica Launch Component Pricing Tool
SANTA MONICA, CA   1/15/2013
Master Distributors Offering Tamura Sensors
FORT WORTH, TX   1/15/2013
Executive Moves at Allied Electronics
MOORESTOWN, NJ   1/11/2013
Alliance Sensors Partners With Marposs
FORT WORTH, TX   1/9/2013
TTI Enhances Apple iOS Mobile App
Video Resources
Twitter Feed
EBN Online Twitter Feed
Like Us on Facebook