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Barbara Jorgensen
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Re: IF I WERE A COUNTERFEITER
Barbara Jorgensen   5/16/2012 3:57:38 PM
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Hi Douglas: I've spoken with America II, World Micro directly, and corresponded with several other independents within the past year or so. One of our bloggers, Dawn Gluskin, is a principal at an independent and writes at length about some of the techniques.

America II buys its own equipment which consists of x-ray and scanning equipment and really good (forget the term--micron?) microscopes. Components go through both tests before they are sold. Most of the independents seem to do their inspection in-house, although I've heard of some that outsource it.

I know there are a couple of different ways to scan/x-ray components. I know AmII uses the more robust of the options.

I'll check a few sites and back to you with more technical terms. "Really good" microscopes doesn't really cut it...

:-)

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Re: IF I WERE A COUNTERFEITER
Barbara Jorgensen   5/16/2012 3:48:35 PM
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Agreed--that is actually a best practice, according to the ECIA.

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Re: IF I WERE A COUNTERFEITER
BLYNCH   5/16/2012 11:58:45 AM
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I certainly am not saying 'independent' and 'counterfeit' are interchangeable but

as you say, it greatly increases the risk, at that point why wouldn't you eliminate

the greatest risk first and tighten up from there?

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Re: IF I WERE A COUNTERFEITER
Douglas Alexander   5/15/2012 5:54:54 PM
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Barbara,

Could you identify some of the independent distributors and tell us what they do to catch the counterfeit parts before they go into their stockrooms? Do they hire outside companies to do the work or do they have internal people assigned full time to the job.

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Re: IF I WERE A COUNTERFEITER
Barbara Jorgensen   5/15/2012 5:17:57 PM
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@BLYNCH: In theory, absolutely. In practice, independents don't just sell stuff, they buy it as well. The imperfections in forecasting mean there will always be a supply/demand imbalance. The supply chain is a two-way street where partners buy and sell, and most independents buy and sell the same factory-made products OEMs and EMS companies are buying. While it is true that buying from an independent increases the risk you may end up with a counterfeit part, the terms "independent distributor" and "counterfeit" are not interchangeable. Reputable independents go to great lengths to avoid counterfeits.

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IF I WERE A COUNTERFEITER
BLYNCH   5/15/2012 3:52:41 PM
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Wouldn't a large part of this problem go away if customers purchased from Authorized, Franchised Distributors / or Manufacturers direct, instead of searching the world for anyone who can supply a product for 'less'? 

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If I were Baraba...
Barbara Jorgensen   5/15/2012 1:48:28 PM
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Douglas and Bolaji: LOL!!! Douglas: no problem, typos make us all human :-) I like the background note: my name actually comes from "barbarian," meaning "stranger." I like your version better.

Bolaji: I plead guilty to "Boloji"--why use two vowels when one will suffice? ;-)

 

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Re: A huge problem, Global Supply Chain probably already compromised
Bolaji Ojo   5/15/2012 10:19:52 AM
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Paulwolb, I like the term "chain of custody" and especially your assessment that this cannot be relied upon to fight counterfeiting. In fact, the reliance on that "chain of custody" is the centerpiece of many people's argument. Buyers are asked to buy only from franchise distributors alone or the actual manufacturers. This presupposes that these sources cannot be corrupted. It represents a baseline, only, though. As you noted, people can be bought.

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Re: If I were a counterfeiter....
Bolaji Ojo   5/15/2012 10:09:38 AM
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Douglas, Glad to see Barbara's name can be upended too. I have had the pleasure of being known as blji, bojali, bojo or some other variation of my name. Interestingly, some of these errors have come in emails, which makes me wonder about the emails I didn't receive because somebody couldn't figure out how my correct mailing address!

Barbara Jorgensen
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Re: If I were a counterfeiter....
Barbara Jorgensen   5/15/2012 10:06:52 AM
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Douglas: I think we are on to something here. I think it is more Tom Clancy than 007, although I never read any of the Ian Fleming novels...

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