Calm Down: Counterfeiters Can Be Stopped

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Douglas Alexander
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Douglas Alexander   9/14/2012 6:24:49 PM
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@Dodge, Thanks. Here is the company's respone: disclosed in the Company's Current Report on Form 8-K filed on June 26, 2012, on June 6, 2012, a complaint for patent infringement was filed against the Company by Smartwater, Ltd. in the United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts in an action entitled Smartwater, Ltd. v. Applied DNA Sciences, Inc., No. 1:12-cv-11009-PBS. The complaint alleged that the Company infringed one or more claims under two of plaintiff's patents by selling or offering for sale, manufacturing and using certain of the Company's products, by inducing others to infringe and by contributing to infringement by others. The plaintiff sought injunctive relief with respect to the patents as well as awards of damages and attorneys' fees. The Company had not been served with the complaint and on August 24, 2012 the plaintiff voluntarily dismissed the complaint and refiled a similar complaint in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida, No. 12-CV-61660-Zioch/Otazo-Reyes. On August 30, 2012, plaintiff served the Company with the complaint. The refiled complaint seeks injunctive relief with respect to one of the patents as well as awards of damages and attorneys' fees. The Company believes that none of its products infringed any claims under either of plaintiff's patents and moreover notes that one of plaintiff's patents has expired. The Company denies the allegations in the complaint, believes they are without merit and intends to defend the action vigorously.

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DodgeJ   9/11/2012 5:44:31 PM
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Any thoughts on the pending lawsuits against ADNAS for patent infringement?  Pretty ironic.

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Re: Entire Country Counterfeited
DodgeJ   7/16/2012 3:10:57 PM
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As is stands today, this is only approriate as a layer of technology, but should not be couned on by itself, especially with the basic yes/no handheld detector they are purportedly using.  This is an expensive and time consuming method of detecting counterfeits, and should be used as a final step, when validation by a court of law is required.  Otherwise a more robust taggant & reader system should be used.

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DodgeJ   7/16/2012 3:08:47 PM

Actually, what you say in your article is "A hand-held scanner can quickly detect the presence of the DNA". 

That is my point of contention.  You do not mention fluorophores at all in the article, which is what most people will read.  I am also now aware that ADNAS is being sued for patent/IP violation by another DNA company. 

 Vis-a-vis fluorohpres, they can be easily sourced online and introduced to a variety of materials, so creating a situation where numerous false positives are generated is very simple for the counterfeiters.  I have seen this happen in my own supply chain when we have attempted to introduce basic security that depends on a simple yes/no detector. 

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Re: Entire Country Counterfeited
Bolaji Ojo   7/5/2012 7:26:21 PM
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@DodgeJ, In other words, this technology may not be for the mass market?

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Douglas Alexander   7/5/2012 5:24:59 PM
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@DodgeJ  I did write that the detection element was a fluorophore. Applied did not mislead in any way. I also mentioned that the forensic identification was still at the lab level. I also indicated that the cost for authentication in a few years was going to be significantly less than it is today and that tabletop equipment would access the cloud for the remote authentication. Please re-read my earlier response to you. Please do not vilify the company by saying they may have mislead me. If anything, it was a bad choice of wording on my part. I am sorry if I mislead you. They did not.

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Re: Entire Country Counterfeited
DodgeJ   7/5/2012 3:18:14 PM

This type of technology is not ground breaking.  Companies have been using moelcular markers and otehr types of chemical additions to products for years.  The drawback has always been, and continues to be, the fact that you must send them back to a lab for testing.  It is a great layer of security, but due to shipping costs, test costs, and the need-to-know desire form industry, it will remain as a very good final authentciation feature.

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DodgeJ   7/5/2012 3:15:02 PM

I think you have been slightly misled by ADNAS.  What they are detecting, it seems, is the fluorophores themeselves, or other types of light responding material that they add with the DNA.  If the scanner was simply detecteting the presence of DNA, it would respond to anything that had DNA in it - blood, skin, etc.  They seem to be opearting in  a very gray area of truth in their marketing and advertising.  The key to their system (the field detection portion anyway), seems to be the addition of another marker or chemical, which they probably don't even manufacture themselves.

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Counterfeiters slipping used parts into new gadgets
owen   7/2/2012 6:54:31 AM
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Posted on PC Pro 7/2/12 - "The majority of fake components sold into the electronics and technology industries are not manufactured in backstreet factories in Asia, but are reused parts that have been cleaned up".

Read more: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/375508/counterfeiters-slipping-used-parts-into-new-gadgets#ixzz1zSdnC986

 

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Anna young   6/30/2012 6:44:09 AM
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Interesting clip Rich!!!  At least before the whole planet is counterfeited, Douglas' article has just assured that there's a ground breaking anti-counterfeiting strategy of the future. I think it's great. Just hope the cost will not be a problem?

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