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Supplier Hit Parade, Part 2

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Douglas Alexander
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Douglas Alexander   7/17/2012 3:40:19 PM
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@Barbara, Bolaji and Douglas: I do get the impression that in electronics, the trend is swinging back toward the human factor I sure hope so. A computer is based on logic and not reason. Sometimes I just need a reasoned response. I can take no as an answer if I think my requests have been even considered. T/F and Y/N answers just don't cover all the "for instances" and exceptions that take place in a normal conversation.

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Barbara Jorgensen   7/17/2012 2:17:02 PM
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Bolaji and Douglas: I do get the impression that in electronics, the trend is swinging back toward the human factor. To use Bolaji's distribution example, distis pulled people out of local offices into hubs in the 1980s-1990s to save on expenses and redundancies. Now, distirbutors are selectively adding local offices and people once again. (Also proximity warehousing.) One factor is technology is more complicated and buyers need more help. Even in catalogs, where prices are fixed and buying processes are easily automated, companies are opting for local human interface. There is really no all-or-nothing scenario anymore.

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Bolaji Ojo   7/17/2012 1:04:06 PM
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You wouldn't pay more for the "extra value" I offer by making sure there's a human at the other end of the phone? That's one of the reasons companies are removing the humans you so much need at the other end. In the late 1990s, distributors were asking OEM and contract manufacturer customers to pay for the extra services they enjoyed. They balked. So, distributors -- for whom this was a cost -- began withdrawing the services. If you get value for service, be ready to pony up.

I admit that being human makes us different but I'll be blunt. I work for personal fulfillment, including wages. What I really like to do is quite different from what I do professionally. I bet you can identify with that too, which tells me perhaps it isn't too much to expect payment for services provided. If a machine provides good service, I'll shake its hands!

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Bolaji Ojo   7/17/2012 12:56:49 PM
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Here's my counterpoint to your advocating the human "bite" versus the machine "byte." Humans are as error prone as a machine can be insensitive. The example you gave of a human being more likely to offer certain pricing concessions because he or she listened to your story gave me heart pangs! If you get the price break because of your "story" and I don't get it because I didn't have a "story" it could tick me off royally against that supplier.

Machine may be prone to deciding things on the basis of how it is programmed but humans can use "programming" that you aren't aware of to be irrational in their decisions. I think we have to find a neutral way of dealing with issues like this. In business, the human touch can be critical but I've done business on the basis of my deep understanding of a human's "story" before and got burned in the process.

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Douglas Alexander   7/17/2012 12:10:43 PM
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Bolaji, I know the technology trend is towards automation for repetitive processes. But, the word "company" means "with bread" in Latin and it implies sitting down and sharing a meal. I would much rather share bites rather than bytes. I hope we never lose the personal touch. We need it as human beings, as social beings, and as long as there are opportunities to interact at the personal mixed in with the professional level, then our jobs can be a source of enjoyment beyond just satisfaction for efficient results. Would I pay extra? No. Should a company identify all the non- repetitive processes and staff up with human beings accordingly? Yes. If not, the more automated the responses become, the less options we have as initiators of actions or the more automated we are forced to be ourselves. Consequently, the more replaceable we are and the less we are valued as human beings. I say this emphatically, "I am not a drone...I am not a drone...I am not a drone..."

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Douglas Alexander   7/17/2012 11:51:57 AM
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@Barbara, Another thing comes to mind that helps make our companies more competitive. This is where a good buyer can shine. That is the process of negotiations. One just cannot negotiate with a computer. The cost is fixed to quantity, and if I need to get a low enough price that will also allow me to pay for my Mother's operation who by the way hasn't eaten in 20 days because if I buy these parts at the full price, I won't be able to buy her any food this week either. A computer response would be "irrelevant...irrelevant...irrelevant...the price is fixed...you must pay the price indicated in column C or we cannot complete this transaction." Whereas a human response would be a simple "BS". Now which would you rather hear. I'll take a sincere BS from a human any day over a computer's BS (Binary Solution).

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Barbara Jorgensen   7/17/2012 10:53:23 AM
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Hi Douglas: You make a compelling case for humans :-) You are correct in that machines do lack a key component: judgment. I've had mixed results with that: in some cases, folks have used their judgment to solve a problem that a machine could not. In others, I may have well be talking to a machine because I kept getting the party line: "We cannot accept..." You are also correct tht in a service envionment, the things you expect of a supplier are 100 percent reasonable. And going beyond "reasonable" is even better. I've had a few of those experiences too.

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Bolaji Ojo   7/16/2012 10:47:56 PM
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Douglas, I doubt anyone can say your position is wrong but there is a flip side to having a human touch in the purchasing channel. A lot of people will contend the cost of having a human at the other end of the phone can be quite high and that purchasers aren't really ready to pay the extra cost. Would you pay a distributor for the extra service you get from a human versus a machine?

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Douglas Alexander   7/16/2012 7:04:54 PM
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@Barbara, This week I placed a number of orders for a client. After finding an alternate part, I had to confirm that I could get samples so I needed to talk to a real person who could call their factory in Hong Kong to arrange for an expedited shipment. I also called back to make sure my request had been honored. Again I talked to a person who sent me a confirming email after hearing back from their contact person in Hong Kong. I am building a PCB on the 20th. I could not leave anything to chance. With another distributor, I had to order cut tape quantities of 0402 parts and needed to meet a 6" tape length minimum for a prototype build assembly house requirement to avoid hand soldering as a second operation. I bought the number of components based upon the feedback a tech gave me after verifying the component count per inch on the tape. I said all of this to point out that automation can take you down the standard paths or line of questions, but real people are key to gaining 100% confidence that a unique requirement is going to be met. I appreciate and use online ordering through most distribution, but on a BOM of 100 parts, some percentage of them are going to require extra attention, including custom frequency programmable oscillators, first make last break connector pin length adjustments for power and ground connection sequencing, etc. I also believe there is no better method for expediting than a human being tracking and talking to another human being guaranteeing stock availabilty, emegency part replacements, or that a package actually went out the door and did not just receive a shipping number waiting on the shipping dock for a truck to arrive. I can believe a computer because even if their information is wrong, they cannot lie....I cannot completely rely on one because they can't check the quality of their data. Too many times I have heard the excuse,,,"our computer said we had it, but there were none in the stock bins." Give me a human being with two legs, or a phone to talk to someone with two legs that has access to the physical stock, and I will feel much better about the real time stock status if I absolutely, gotta have the part the next day or that same day.

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Barbara Jorgensen   7/16/2012 3:46:44 PM
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Hi Douglas: Although you specify "individuals" in this post, I am wondering how you feel about automation. Unless I have a question or problem, I often find it faster to do something online. In fact, the last time I had to deal with a person (I had to call our very large bank for a credit card question) they plagued me incessantly for a week (phone and e-mail) for feedback on my "service experience." I told them if they didn't stop bugging me it would be my last service experience...



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