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Time to Redefine 'Waste' in the US

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Mr. Roques
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Re: Waste
Mr. Roques   8/26/2012 6:27:43 PM
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So, lets say we could recycle every single can out there, you're still saying companies are doing something wrong with them? like what?

TaimoorZ
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Re: Wow, is That an Understatement
TaimoorZ   8/26/2012 6:25:12 PM
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Great point, Rich. I do agree that by having policies like BYOD companies are getting rid of the hassle of managing the recycling of hardware and ensuring their processes remain green. Although I'm not sure if it's really a bad idea to let the users handle the recycling part on their own.

Rich Krajewski
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Re: Waste
Rich Krajewski   8/26/2012 2:24:43 PM
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"If we look at nature we can't find waste"

Whoa! I was taught that Nature is ultimately waste, in that all processes ultimately increase chaos in the universe. (That jibes with the theological idea that the universe is "broken.") At least that's what I learned about the laws of thermodynamics when I studied engineering.

Nevertheless, I get your point. "Life processes" on a planetary level seem to recover waste materials very effectively (with the injection of energy from the Sun and from some chemical and nuclear processes on the Earth). We should copy that, because for a system to be viable in the long term, it must have a way to obtain inputs, even if it means recovering waste (if that recovery is cheaper overall than obtaining new input).

"Cheaper overall" depends on how "long term" is defined. Society's definition should include multiple generations, to as long as we can plan, if society wants to continue. Many individuals and probably most businesses look at a much shorter definition, which selfishly foists the problem onto the shoulders of coming generations. To force the definition to a multi-generational span probably requires government, since that span is outside the outlook of most businesses and individuals, but is inside the interests of society.

Likely, companies will initially adopt these measures as marketing tools, as long as "green" is still popular, then continue to adopt under orders from government, and then eventually adopt them as the only viable business strategy that makes new materials available at a reasonable cost.

As materials become more scarce, business Dawinism will ensure that only companies that have mastered the art of recycling waste will continue.

 

Rich Krajewski
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Wow, is That an Understatement
Rich Krajewski   8/26/2012 2:00:58 PM
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"I would say we have room to improve"

Wow, is that an understatement. The sooner supply streams incorporate recycling costs and toxin control programs, the better.

Instead, I'm seeing more and more BYOTICTD (Bring Your Own Throw-away, Irresponsible, Childish, Toy-like Device) mentality.

Nemos
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Waste
Nemos   8/25/2012 8:36:02 PM
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" For decades, the Danish environment policy has been to regard waste as a resource."

If we look at nature we can't find waste therefore we must act in the same way. All the products we produce must be recycled, otherwise in a few decades we have to find another planet to destroy.....

_hm
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Re: Follow Germany
_hm   8/25/2012 8:32:47 PM
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@Douglas: It was in TV news. Apart from that, as it is 40% it should be more obvious in one's daily life.

 

_hm
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Re: Follow Germany
_hm   8/25/2012 8:30:02 PM
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There should be more stress in education from early childhood. Also, US student should more frequently visit and stay there for year or more to deeply understand their approach. This may be way to improve culture slowly.

In general, in Germany and may be in Europe they do revere earth and environment as Goddess.

 

nimantha.d
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Re: Follow Germany
nimantha.d   8/25/2012 10:51:45 AM
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Well its a good percentage indeed and this is a good stepping stone for other countries to follow if they really do care. I feel we should create more awareness regarding the subject 

elctrnx_lyf
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Re: Follow Germany
elctrnx_lyf   8/25/2012 6:54:58 AM
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I think European countries are ahead of many nations across the world. 55 percent of the product to be recyclable is really a great requirement from any electronic product company. But are other countries going to follow European regulations.

Hospice_Houngbo
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Re: Follow Germany
Hospice_Houngbo   8/25/2012 12:30:49 AM
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@_hm:

Americans throw out 40% of food, study says - World - CBC News

I doesn't surprise me, but it is indeed desapointing when we know that many people in poor countries don't have enough to eat and how difficult it is for them to make ends meet.

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