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Time to Redefine 'Waste' in the US

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nimantha.d
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nimantha.d   9/22/2012 8:16:06 AM
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Exactly Douglas and this is something that the US government should address quickly. Its not just a wastage of food and products basically wastage of national economy.

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Douglas Alexander   8/27/2012 3:46:44 PM
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@nimantha, Good point. My wife and I worked in Manila with a medical team serving 5000 families that lived on a garbage dump. The entire family made a "living" be picking through the garbage for old rice bags, rubber tires that could made into sandles, metal, and just about anything else that could be washed and reused. A day's wage was one dried fish, a scoop of rice, and a gallon of water. It was amazing to watch the people put together a livilihood off of waste products.

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nimantha.d   8/27/2012 11:29:50 AM
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Exactly and according to my knowledge there is lot of wastage happening in the US itself and its not only in the field of technology but in other areas like food, medicine, etc... If there is a solution where you can recycle whatever which is due to go into the garbage basket, then lot of money can be saved.

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Barbara Jorgensen   8/27/2012 9:52:57 AM
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That data is eye-opening, especially on the amount of energy it takes to actually create something that ends up as waste.

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Time to Redefine 'Waste' in the US
SP   8/27/2012 6:35:57 AM
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Its remarkable to see the awrareness common people have in countries like US. Even the social communities like residential appartment building also do recycling and all the waste is categorized. Hope in Asian countries also common man start doing it.

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Anna young   8/27/2012 5:35:23 AM
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Bolaji, you are absolutely correct and I agree with the point you have raised.  For example, a current estimate reveals the ICT industry is expected to generate 53millions tonnes of e waste by 2012. Only 13% of this waste is reported to be recycled with or without adequate safety procedures. As you are aware, the potential human impacts from this are toxic. . So what then happens now?

 I think (though like you mentioned a comprehensive programme may take too long) the challenge is to raise further  awareness among all actors, policy makers, producers, consumers and recyclers - in order to be aware of the environmental impact and realise the innovation potential that could lead to sustainable design and consumption.

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TaimoorZ   8/27/2012 2:46:14 AM
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@Rich: Considering your example, do you think it can be a good technique if companies start paying out a certain incentive to consumers who bring the devices back to the manufacturers once their useful life is over? Would that help in improving the recycling process?

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Bolaji Ojo   8/26/2012 8:38:35 PM
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Unfortunately, some of what's happening today is merely to be compliant with the law and not because of a serious concern about the environment. The profit impetus is just way too strong and the short-term, deliver-first mentality driving businesses means the comprehensive program we need to undertake as a society will probably take way too long to happen.

We do design for maximum profit rather than design for sustainability, which means most of the electronic equipment we buy and other products aren't designed to have the minimal impact on our society we desire but the highest profit we can garner.

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Rich Krajewski   8/26/2012 7:10:37 PM
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Probably I'm saying (if you mean me) that recycling is a good idea, but that, since Nature was brought in as an example of a perfect recycler, we might want to realize the limitations of recycling, even for Nature. Then I talked about how the definition changes of what constitutes a sound reason to recycle when you adjust the time horizon of the problem, and how that in turn probably might require intervention because of market failure in managing such long-term problems.

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Rich Krajewski   8/26/2012 6:58:41 PM
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"Although I'm not sure if it's really a bad idea to let the users handle the recycling part on their own."

I felt we had that licked years ago, when many companies required deposits on bottles to make sure they would come back for reuse (and not just recycling). I made enough money picking up bottles and returning them to the store to buy some comic books that way. I understand some states still have deposits on bottles. Maybe the idea should be revived and extended. This way, the cooperation of the user will be better achieved.

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