How the Internet Burns & Saves Energy

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FLYINGSCOT
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eye opener
FLYINGSCOT   10/10/2012 3:47:03 PM
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I never really thought too much about this before but your article is enlightening and pretty scary.  i need to log off now and reduce my carbon footprint.

Nemos
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hmmm
Nemos   10/10/2012 6:35:52 PM
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Your article fulfilled me with deep thoughts and especially this part "A mid-sized datacenter's energy consumption is comparable to that of a mid-sized village."

That is something a bit scary and turns on environments alarms. 

Adeniji Kayode
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Inspiring!
Adeniji Kayode   10/11/2012 3:16:43 PM
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This is really inspiring, thank you.You really gave light to an aspect most internet users never even think about.

But what could possibly be done to this when internet usage keep sky-rocketing every year, thanks to facebook, mobile internet devices and other social media.

Adeniji Kayode
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Re: Inspiring!
Adeniji Kayode   10/11/2012 3:24:47 PM
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Just thinking, apart from the so much CO generated as a result of our 24/7, what other emission (s) are produced from our use of internet?

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Internet and energy
Barbara Jorgensen   10/11/2012 4:31:14 PM
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I found this data shocking, but it is logical when broken down as Cagri presents it. (Thanks as always, Cagri!) Just because our PC isn't dimming the lights every time we turn it on doesn't mean the Internet isn't an energy pig. Somewhere out there servers are humming away so I can write this less-than-insightful comment. :-) Maybe I should start a running log of my carbon footprint and penalize myself every time I write something stupid...

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Internet saves energy too
Cryptoman   10/11/2012 5:57:23 PM
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I also found the energy consumption figures shocking. The problem is majority of this consumption happens in the background which is not transparent to the user. Therefore, it is very difficult to appreciate how mouse clicks translate into energy consumption.

Having said that let's not forget how internet and online presence helps reduce carbon footprint by minimising travelling. Such energy savings should not be overlooked as they are significant helpers to the environment. In the future, it is not hard to imagine that people will be able to do more online and such savings will grow. I particularly like the idea of 3D printers as it is a perfect example of this rule of thumb to save energy: "Move the information, not the physical objects."

I am glad to receive such positive comments on the article and I am happy to see that it raised a few eyebrows and made you think twice.

 

Adeniji Kayode
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Re: Internet saves energy too
Adeniji Kayode   10/13/2012 7:02:41 AM
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@Cryptoman,

Good point. but what do you think the ratio of the carbon footprint generated as a result of the use of internet compared to the one generated by travelling could be?

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Cryptoman   10/13/2012 7:26:55 AM
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Good question Adeniji. Let's try to come up with an estimation.

According to a carbon footprint calculator I found on the web, for a 50 mile trip in an average sized petrol car, the carbon footprint is about 20 kg per person. If one assumes a daily return trip for work, the carbon footprint per week becomes 20 x 2 x 5 days = 200 kg/week.

Let us assume that a PC user spends 12 hours per day performing internet searches at a rate of 1 click per minute. At this rate the user is able to perform 720 searches per day which generates 5 kg of carbon print (using the 7 gr/search figure provided in the article). If the user does this for a living for 5 days a week, the weekly carbon footprint becomes 5 x 5 days = 25 kg/week

Based on the above calculations, even in the worst case, working from home and earning a living by using the web saves 8 times as much carbon footprint!

I know the above calculation is a rough estimate but nevertheless it still gives an interesting picture to think about.

 

Adeniji Kayode
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Re: Internet saves energy too
Adeniji Kayode   10/15/2012 9:51:55 AM
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@Crytoman,

Thanks for the simple arithmetic, it really give an idea of  some aspect of the article.

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Re: Internet saves energy too
Cryptoman   10/19/2012 3:34:25 PM
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Hi Adeniji.

Just to give you a "visual" idea of the scale of the energy issue, please check this video of a Google data centre. This video may put the mathematical explanation I gave into perspective. I think the video is pretty self-explanatory.

Pay particular attention to what they call the "cooling towers" in the video.

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Carbon -netural power?
Wale Bakare   10/11/2012 6:57:51 PM
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>>it's almost certain that the Internet and advanced technology will help conserve more energy<<

Penalizing the giant internet firms for me not the best - the issue is processing and storing millions of people's data require a huge server farm. Definitely, all these servers have to operate in accordance to performance per watt usage.

Meanwhile, i think carbon neutral geothermal supply is a good example to help conserving energy, could be used by datacenters around the world. Currently Iceland is investing in this, and it learned that the country is trying to attract firms from the North America and Europe to build their datacenters there, coupled with the nation's cold climate running 12 months calendar year.  Also, other arctic places too are  good locations to host cloud computing data centers.

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Re: Carbon -netural power?
Cryptoman   10/11/2012 7:59:29 PM
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Interesting and clever move...

Moving the servers north for cooling purposes is an energy efficient method of maintaining large server farms. However, how will the country's IP backbone support the high volume of IP traffic? I guess that will require a huge amount of infrastructural investment.

Wale Bakare
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Wale Bakare   10/12/2012 5:06:29 AM
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Sure its a huge investiment! The way its been done is similar to current fiber cable laying project from Europe to Africa. Some Africa nations have been spending huge amount of money on submarine communication cable across the atlantic ocean through Portugal, England to West Africa nations.

Iceland's fiber cable too is being laid to support such a high volume of IP transport.

Adeniji Kayode
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Re: Carbon -netural power?
Adeniji Kayode   10/13/2012 7:09:52 AM
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@Wale,

You are absolutely right.



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