RIM Shedding Jobs

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Wale Bakare
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Who's Creating Jobs And Where?
Wale Bakare   6/20/2012 9:39:31 AM
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"an attempt to regain market share from Apple Inc.'s iPhone and devices running Google Inc.'s Android".

Competing well with Apple and Androids requires an absolute new thing. Where are the job loses going to affect? Canada, Germany or UK? Should RIM open office/plant in Africa, would there be better growth in its sales especially regaining its market share potion that's fast decreasing in North America and Europe. What are your thoughts? Read another different report here, RIM plans to open office in Lagos - Nigeria





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Re: Who's Creating Jobs And Where?
elctrnx_lyf   6/20/2012 3:12:26 PM
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I'm not really confident if RIM will be ever able to make a good come back with their new series of mobiles. The recent trends in mobile sales still favour the android followers. The sales of blackberry are really down and i don't see around any one purchasing black berry phones. Even their trademark email systems are becoming more common and their trademark email systems is vastly being replaced by users with android or iOS devices.

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TaimoorZ   6/20/2012 10:16:36 PM
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" Even their trademark email systems are becoming more common and their trademark email systems is vastly being replaced by users with android or iOS devices."

@elctrnx_lyf: I agree. I think RIM is losing out on all the competitive advantage it once had. Security was their major feature but now Andrioid and iOS seem to be offering the same level of security so there's no differentiation. Apart from it, their email service, as you mentioned, is no longer exclusive and other platforms seem to be offering service of the same quality.


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WaqasAltaf   6/20/2012 11:56:31 PM
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@ electrnx_lyf

"Even their trademark email systems are becoming more common and their trademark email systems is vastly being replaced by users with android or iOS devices. "

You have a point here. This email system has been the strength of BB phones and if this strength is effectively adopted by Apples and Androids, then it wont take long for companies to reconsider their BB loyalty approach. This should be the biggest threat for BB.

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mfbertozzi   6/21/2012 5:23:00 AM
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@WaqasAltaf: well, I agree with you, but honestly, apart the innovative email service launched a few years ago, which are other innovations from RIM? Jobs' cut could be a temporary (bad) choice for rightsizing the organization, but there is the mindset for making good steps forward in a such competitive market?

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WaqasAltaf   6/21/2012 1:01:50 PM
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@ mfbertozzi

I agre with you. Cutting jobs may be good for surviving temporarily but aint a great idea in the longer run. There has to be an effective plan to keep the foot in the market. And the strategy has to be agressive as well. Sounds like a great challenge ahead.

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Re: Who's Creating Jobs And Where?
mfbertozzi   6/22/2012 4:31:45 AM
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@WaqasAltaf: I see, it has been discussed in depth during yesterday live chat; the additional point is about suppliers; jobs' cut could be a temporary step for making savings, but it is tremendous in terms of impact for the whole ecosystem around.

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WaqasAltaf   6/22/2012 12:10:48 PM
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@mfbertozzi

I think job cuts can be great if the employees were assigned duplicated tasks and the job description was too easy. This can not only be a survival factor in the shorter run but also a contributor to efficient environment in long term. 

However, laying off staff that were necessary with a hope that the task can be managed without them can prove to be costly. The point is cost saving should not be the only major factor to be considered while laying off. Long term sustainability is important too.

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mfbertozzi   6/25/2012 8:17:24 AM
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WaqasAltaf, great and very pragmatic perspective, I totally agree with and I guess someone from companies which are meeting difficulties with, could consider it for evolving the situation. Thx.

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Mr. Roques   6/26/2012 10:17:24 AM
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Well, when a company is in need of a reinvention, maybe scaling down is a good thing. Rediscover its target market and then go after them. But I don't think that's the way RIM is going.

They should forget about Apple, don't even mention it. They don't have a chance in the short run to catch them. Continuing what their doing is only harming them because, for their employees and for the general public, it just looks like RIM losing batttle after battle.

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WaqasAltaf   6/26/2012 2:52:58 PM
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@ Roques

Thats true. RIM has an extremely challenging situation to face. Demotivated employees, competitors strengthening day by day and many financial problems such as investors' concerns due to lack of growth and dividends will make them further unlikely to swim up to the sea unless a miraclous product success is witnessed.

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Mr. Roques   8/25/2012 6:04:41 PM
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Well, do you believe they will make it? a division of it?

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WaqasAltaf   8/27/2012 6:28:29 AM
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@ Roques

I cant say they will make it or not but with so much competition from Android, Apple and now even Windows, they will have to fight it hard. Fight it hard to make sure that there existing customers dont leave. Getting the new ones is even bigger a challenge.

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Barbara Jorgensen   6/20/2012 3:40:03 PM
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Wale: I think most of the job cuts are in North America. As for competing with Apple and Android, it doesn't look good, does it?

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TaimoorZ   6/20/2012 10:09:44 PM
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"I think most of the job cuts are in North America"

@Barbara: What do you think are some of the reasons behind it? Is it the fact that North American areas might be the least profitable for RIMs and that's why they're looking to cut down on the jobs there?


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Eldredge   6/20/2012 10:19:25 PM
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Not good news from RIM, but this action is not a big surprise either. With stiff competition from Apple and android phones, and no real innovation from RIM, cutbacks are unavoidable.

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WaqasAltaf   6/20/2012 11:52:02 PM
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@ eldredge

Well its about targetting a segment. Apple and Android phones are targetting the consumer market and hence all their phones' features and apps are consumer-centric with entertainment the basic goal.

Meanwhile, RIM is targetting corporate users' segment where security features and connectivity are of essence. Need for extensive innovation might not be there as much as in consumer phones' market. Nonetheless, competition can be inevitable in corporate market too from Apple and android phones.

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Jacob   6/21/2012 12:36:55 AM
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Eldredge, I think things are not happened because of tight completions, it's a clear example of mismanagement.  Still there are possibilities to retain their market share because most of the enterprise level peoples and employees still prefer Blackberry services, especially in view of BYOD policy.  If they are stopping the production, then what's the future of blackberry services?

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RIm follows Nokias path
Jacob   6/21/2012 12:29:31 AM
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Barbara, it seems that they are following Nokia. Like Nokia if RIM is also planning to shut down its R&D and production facility, that would be a great loss to the mobile sector. In between we had read about some plan for M&A with RIM, any updates about it.



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