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Engineers Do Not Care

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Michael Allen
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Re: Ignorant comment!
Michael Allen   11/19/2014 9:29:45 PM
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@Hailey, Yes, education is the solution to the problem. I am always amazed when I ask one of our new experienced engineers during their first circuit review if they tried using any of the components we already stock and they act surprised. Often they say that they had know idea I would expect that from a design engineer. Fortunately with a little coaching most respond quite well and start looking at the parts we are purchasing.

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Re: Component Engineer's role
prabhakar_deosthali   11/19/2014 12:44:20 AM
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Since I have worked in small, medium as well as large organizations, I can tell from my experience that , in small organizations the department boundaries are not that rigid and many atimes every engineer has to wear multiple hats. So in such an organization when a design engineer designs a product, he/she very well knows the cost constarints , the availability constarints, the manufactruing constraints etc because many times the single engineer is handling all those responsibilities or if at all there isa separate procurement team , the design team is in very close interaction with them while selecting components.

 

 

Hailey Lynne McKeefry
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Re: I'm not surprised
Hailey Lynne McKeefry   11/18/2014 7:47:30 PM
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@t.alex, a better collaboration between purchasing/supply chain and designers would go a long way of helping this issue. @EBNers, what have your organizations done to improve the way these two functions work better together?

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   11/18/2014 7:46:14 PM
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@Michael,  You have a lot of experience with this! i think training is a critical part of the puzzle. What would you recommend in terms of raising awareness in engineers? Would it be ongoing education? Corproate policies?

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   11/18/2014 7:43:55 PM
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@_hm, i believe that the biggest problem is not malice but ignorance. I do believe that engineers would like to be sensitive to cost, but often the process of designing makes tracing the real cost of the design fall by teh wayside. The designer does have a huge list of concerns--it's mot an easy job.

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Re: Component Engineer's role
Hailey Lynne McKeefry   11/18/2014 7:42:12 PM
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@prabhakar, in an ideal world there would always be a component engineer. What should organizaitons do, though, if they are smaller and can't afford a dedicated engiener? Any advice?

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Re: I'm not surprised
Jacob   11/17/2014 10:55:09 PM
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" Engineers do not care because they do not have a closer relationship with supply chain officials so it doesn't matter to them how many bucks a company is losing on the supply chain just because the engineer thinks a process is faster than before."

Tirlapur, a good engineer has to think it that level. They have to visualize about the end user use cases and how it will be beneficial for them. 

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Re: Cost Factor
Jacob   11/17/2014 10:48:41 PM
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"Cost effectiveness is always the priority but it shouldn't come in the way of design principles. For example, people would normally like a better looking smartphone over a worse looking but slightly better performing smartphone."

Tirlapur, would you thing Samsung Galaxy S4/S5 , Note series and IPhone are worth for that cost. Not at all; they need it to mark it as a premium version and hence tagged with high prices. 

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Re: Cost Factor
tirlapur   11/17/2014 1:15:09 PM
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"Allen, I can understand the priority and need for that. But when we look for an alternative for the existing design or board, we will keep cost effectiveness as the priority."

@Jacob: Cost effectiveness is always the priority but it shouldn't come in the way of design principles. For example, people would normally like a better looking smartphone over a worse looking but slightly better performing smartphone.

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Re: I'm not surprised
tirlapur   11/17/2014 1:12:32 PM
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"that engineers do not care about how much does it cost in supply chain. Engineers apparently do not care about logistics cost, supply cost, they are willing to spend thousands of dollars on a single shipment just to make it happen. Companies need to train engineers give more thoughts how much they need to spend to be more productive and cost efficient."

@t.alex: I completely agree with you. Engineers do not care because they do not have a closer relationship with supply chain officials so it doesn't matter to them how many bucks a company is losing on the supply chain just because the engineer thinks a process is faster than before.

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