8 Steps to Detect & Avoid Counterfeits

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ddeisz
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Re: How much, and what kind, of testing works?
ddeisz   10/2/2012 11:29:55 AM
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I find the step of electrical test (#5) the most interesting. It is interesting to me because no test house and no IDEA member has the original test program used by the OCM or their authorized sources.

1. Exactly WHAT is being electrically tested?

2. Where did this electrical test come from?

3. Who is paying for what testing to be done?

4. Does this include long-term reliability testing such as looking for ESD handling issues? These errors won't show up in simple electrical test.

Buyer beware when purchasing a part from an IDEA member and they have "electrically tested" the parts. It's better than nothing, but it's a total variable in todays market with no approved standards for full electrical test. Electrical test is negotiated, primarily with competitve bids from test houses. The test houses compete, but they all do testing differently and NONE OF THEM HAVE THE ORIGINAL TEST PROGRAMS. They may not even have the original test platform and yes, this can make a difference too. I congratulate the author for having electrical test as an item, but too often it is dumbed down as a feel-good item when in fact it is much more complex of an issue.

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SIA meets with the Defense Logistics Agency on DNA Marking
owen   10/2/2012 7:36:12 AM
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"SIA was joined by representatives of Analog Devices, IBM and Rochester Electronics. We had a constructive discussion and emphasized the industry's commitment to working with DLA and other government agencies to address the problem of counterfeit semiconductors infiltrating the military supply chain. Unfortunately, however, despite strong arguments supporting industry's concerns regarding this new marking mandate, DLA remains committed to implementing this new requirement starting in November". It's about time, we are at war, our warfighters are at risk, no more delays, just get it done.

http://www.sia-online.org/news/2012/09/25/export_controls_article/sia_meets_with_the_defense_

logistics_agency_on_dna_marking/

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Re: How much, and what kind, of testing works?
Barbara Jorgensen   10/1/2012 1:51:44 PM
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Thanks Beverley!

Beverley Scott
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Re: How much, and what kind, of testing works?
Beverley Scott   10/1/2012 11:24:17 AM
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Hi Barbara,

When you can not for certain guarantee the origin or trace it back to the electronic component manufacturer the parts must be tested.  Even if you are dealing with a reliable supplier you may not have control or influence over your suppliers supplier. As mentioned previously no one test can guarantee 100% accuracy that it is authentic but sentry, x-ray etc. testing will give you a better chance of catching the problem.

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Re: planning
WaqasAltaf   9/30/2012 10:34:10 PM
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@ Flyingscot

"If you cannot find the normal parts it is too tempting to get them from wherever you can."

You are right. For quality concious companies, the only situation when they are forced to buy counterfeit (despite knowing that) is when there is severe gap of demand and supply of components.

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Re: Practical steps
WaqasAltaf   9/30/2012 10:32:06 PM
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@ _hm

As far as point 4 is concerned, 100% honesty is too much to expect from traders as most of them know the source of their buy and despite knowing that it is a counterfeit, they try to sell it at a price of genuine item.

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Active reporting of counterfeits
WaqasAltaf   9/30/2012 10:27:51 PM
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Active reporting of counterfeits can help alot in the war against couterfeit products. If companies keep silence and bear the loss without any action on their part, the counterfeit industry will continue to thrive.

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Re: How much, and what kind, of testing works?
tirlapur   9/30/2012 2:45:10 PM
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Counterfeit reporting , how effective is that ? Does it directly involved or its just for reporting purposes ?

@nimantha.d, i dont think its just for reporting purposes. I am sure assosciations like ERAI (Electronic Resellers Association International) and the IDEA (Independent Distributors Electronics Association) takes these feedback seriously and help identify and reduce counterfeit product.

tirlapur
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Re : 8 Steps to Detect & Avoid Counterfeits
tirlapur   9/30/2012 2:41:04 PM
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@Beverley, thanks for the informative article. All  your suggestions are highly useful to detect and avoid counterfeits. I will definitely save  and share this article.

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planning
FLYINGSCOT   9/30/2012 1:47:32 PM
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I also think item 7 is very important as it much easier to stay on top of things if you plan correctly with a good obsolesence strategy.  If you cannot find the normal parts it is too tempting to get them from wherever you can.

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