8 Steps to Detect & Avoid Counterfeits

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Barbara Jorgensen
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How much, and what kind, of testing works?
Barbara Jorgensen   9/28/2012 1:16:15 PM
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Hi Beverly: There's been a lot of discussion recently on the kind of testing parts can/should receive. I guess I have a procedural question: should only suspect parts be tested, or all parts? Does the inspection escalate depending on the findings? Clearly, some testing might be redundant, but at the same time, how else can every handler of components testify to their authenticity unles they test parts themselves?

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hash.era   9/29/2012 7:25:43 AM
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Good question Barbara. I feel all sectors should be tested equally since if you are to make a system which ahs less bugs, then a good testing process has to be implemented.

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nimantha.d   9/30/2012 4:05:07 AM
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Great points and well explained. One question for you. Counterfeit reporting , how effective is that ? Does it directly involved or its just for reporting purposes ?

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tirlapur   9/30/2012 2:45:10 PM
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Counterfeit reporting , how effective is that ? Does it directly involved or its just for reporting purposes ?

@nimantha.d, i dont think its just for reporting purposes. I am sure assosciations like ERAI (Electronic Resellers Association International) and the IDEA (Independent Distributors Electronics Association) takes these feedback seriously and help identify and reduce counterfeit product.

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hash.era   1/30/2013 10:44:06 AM
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I dont think it will ever get involved nimanthad

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Re: How much, and what kind, of testing works?
nimantha.d   2/2/2013 10:32:54 PM
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Why not Hash ? Do you mean to say it does not have any chance or it does not have the capabilities to be so ?

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hash.era   2/3/2013 11:58:23 AM
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Capabilities Im not sure though but Im pretty sure that the current situation will not be the ideal. So you can put it as no chance.

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Re: How much, and what kind, of testing works?
nimantha.d   2/4/2013 12:14:18 AM
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Hash: I agree that the time is not that good but I feel taking chances is something which you should do if you are to remain in contention in the market.

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Re: How much, and what kind, of testing works?
hash.era   2/4/2013 10:39:20 AM
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nimantha.d: Its an option. I dont see it as a must since there are so many other ways to do things if one goes wrong.

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Re: How much, and what kind, of testing works?
nimantha.d   2/5/2013 9:30:39 AM
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Hash.era: Yes there are other ways and this is just an entity out of those lot, but still I wont rate this to the top

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Re: How much, and what kind, of testing works?
hash.era   2/5/2013 11:32:13 AM
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Can you tell me why please because I do not see any valid reason for why not from my point of view.

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nimantha.d   2/6/2013 10:22:09 AM
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When you have so many options you just cannot rate one out of that as the 1st prefference or likining list.

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nimantha.d   2/6/2013 1:10:44 PM
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Good point but when you something which has a good demand or a trend which favors it, dont you think it should be at the top of the priority list ?

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nimantha.d   2/7/2013 11:45:49 AM
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Also taking into consideration that the movements too are favorable towards your side.

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nimantha.d   9/30/2012 4:06:57 AM
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Yes hash if you are to drive a system which has the capability to destroy counterfeits then it shoul be tested very carefully

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hash.era   9/30/2012 2:18:13 AM
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I really like the planing the system procedure factor since IMO I feel that is what we need to focus more on. If the planing is rightly done along with good system procedures then things will be much more easy

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Beverley Scott   10/1/2012 11:24:17 AM
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Hi Barbara,

When you can not for certain guarantee the origin or trace it back to the electronic component manufacturer the parts must be tested.  Even if you are dealing with a reliable supplier you may not have control or influence over your suppliers supplier. As mentioned previously no one test can guarantee 100% accuracy that it is authentic but sentry, x-ray etc. testing will give you a better chance of catching the problem.

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Barbara Jorgensen   10/1/2012 1:51:44 PM
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Thanks Beverley!

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ddeisz   10/2/2012 11:29:55 AM
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I find the step of electrical test (#5) the most interesting. It is interesting to me because no test house and no IDEA member has the original test program used by the OCM or their authorized sources.

1. Exactly WHAT is being electrically tested?

2. Where did this electrical test come from?

3. Who is paying for what testing to be done?

4. Does this include long-term reliability testing such as looking for ESD handling issues? These errors won't show up in simple electrical test.

Buyer beware when purchasing a part from an IDEA member and they have "electrically tested" the parts. It's better than nothing, but it's a total variable in todays market with no approved standards for full electrical test. Electrical test is negotiated, primarily with competitve bids from test houses. The test houses compete, but they all do testing differently and NONE OF THEM HAVE THE ORIGINAL TEST PROGRAMS. They may not even have the original test platform and yes, this can make a difference too. I congratulate the author for having electrical test as an item, but too often it is dumbed down as a feel-good item when in fact it is much more complex of an issue.

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Bolaji Ojo   10/3/2012 11:18:11 AM
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ddeisz, I think No. 4 question on your list is probably one of the most important ones the distribution market and customers are avoiding. Who's going to pay for tests and who will stand by the results of such tests. The component buyer isn't going to pay for tests because they believe they automatically should get authentic parts while the components suppliers will never admit to being used as the conduit for fake parts. Distributors too (unless they are shady ones) will not readily admit to being the source of fake parts entering the system. So, where does the buck stop?

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Practical steps
_hm   9/30/2012 10:12:15 AM
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Beverly:

If you are hand-on engineer, two practical steps are number 4 and 8. Other steps are more abstarct.

 

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WaqasAltaf   9/30/2012 10:32:06 PM
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@ _hm

As far as point 4 is concerned, 100% honesty is too much to expect from traders as most of them know the source of their buy and despite knowing that it is a counterfeit, they try to sell it at a price of genuine item.

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planning
FLYINGSCOT   9/30/2012 1:47:32 PM
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I also think item 7 is very important as it much easier to stay on top of things if you plan correctly with a good obsolesence strategy.  If you cannot find the normal parts it is too tempting to get them from wherever you can.

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WaqasAltaf   9/30/2012 10:34:10 PM
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@ Flyingscot

"If you cannot find the normal parts it is too tempting to get them from wherever you can."

You are right. For quality concious companies, the only situation when they are forced to buy counterfeit (despite knowing that) is when there is severe gap of demand and supply of components.

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Re : 8 Steps to Detect & Avoid Counterfeits
tirlapur   9/30/2012 2:41:04 PM
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@Beverley, thanks for the informative article. All  your suggestions are highly useful to detect and avoid counterfeits. I will definitely save  and share this article.

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Active reporting of counterfeits
WaqasAltaf   9/30/2012 10:27:51 PM
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Active reporting of counterfeits can help alot in the war against couterfeit products. If companies keep silence and bear the loss without any action on their part, the counterfeit industry will continue to thrive.

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SIA meets with the Defense Logistics Agency on DNA Marking
owen   10/2/2012 7:36:12 AM
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"SIA was joined by representatives of Analog Devices, IBM and Rochester Electronics. We had a constructive discussion and emphasized the industry's commitment to working with DLA and other government agencies to address the problem of counterfeit semiconductors infiltrating the military supply chain. Unfortunately, however, despite strong arguments supporting industry's concerns regarding this new marking mandate, DLA remains committed to implementing this new requirement starting in November". It's about time, we are at war, our warfighters are at risk, no more delays, just get it done.

http://www.sia-online.org/news/2012/09/25/export_controls_article/sia_meets_with_the_defense_

logistics_agency_on_dna_marking/

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Electrical Test System
DavidF   10/3/2012 9:35:01 AM
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I know of a test dystem that verifies components fast and accurately to their Specs. No false positives or negatives. Liobrary of components is over 50K parts!!!

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Re: Electrical Test System
Bolaji Ojo   10/3/2012 11:20:25 AM
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DavidF, People often regard warily any system or anyone that claims to be able to quickly test and confirm the authenticity of anything, not to mention parts. Some experts believe the component may even work as intended but does that mean it is genuinely from the vendor? There are counterfeits that are so well made they even fool the original manufacturer!

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Re: Electrical Test System
DavidF   10/3/2012 11:27:10 AM
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Bolaji, I think we all agree that no one test alone is sufficient in all cases. I am just suggesting that one quick way to see if it is going to function is to plug it in and exercise it before spending the money for the other test methods whose capitol equipment costs are > 50k and often over 100K.

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Re: Electrical Test System
Bolaji Ojo   10/3/2012 12:32:10 PM
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DavidF, You are right and thanks for the clarification. I believe most experts on anti-counterfeiting would agree with the position that a quick and inexpensive test should first be carried out on suspected counterfeit parts before a more intense and likely expensive test is carried out. The most basic one is just to see if it works. If it doesn't work, it may be because of a variety of factors but at least it can be put aside for additional testing. This is also another way to isolate an entire batch for review.

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Re: Electrical Test System
ddeisz   10/3/2012 12:43:25 PM
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The ABI system is based on a software library of parts for comparison generated by ABI and not the original semiconductor manufacturer. The comparison they are doing to what they think is a good enough set of characteristics. It may or may not be the extent to which the original product was tested. It is better than doing no electrical test and probably reasonable for simple devices, but it does not test for long-term reliability and handling issues and it is not what the original OCM did for testing the product. 

There is no easy pill to swallow on genuinely doing full electrical testing, specifically for long-term reliability and handling issues.

This ABI system is a nice baby-step, but it does not cover all the electrical testing issues and certainly does not cover all parts.

Dan Deisz

Rochester Electronics

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Re: Electrical Test System
Adeniji Kayode   2/4/2013 11:16:03 AM
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@ Bolaji,

I agree seeing a component work might be a vital part of test but then some component will work at that point but will fail over time.

I feel the test of time may not be a bad idea.

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Re: Electrical Test System
nimantha.d   2/10/2013 9:57:59 AM
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Adeniji: I see your point. I think its happening becasue it has not gone through a proper testing cycle for a long term.

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How much, and what kind, of testing works?
Beverley Scott   10/3/2012 10:54:27 AM
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Hi ddeisz

I agree in order to minimise counterfeits entering the supply chain standard tests should be undertaken on electronic components by the distributor. Our in house electrical testing machine from ABI named the SENTRY counterfeit IC detector can help detect counterfeit components.

A wide range of packages can be tested including Dual In Line, SOIC, PLCC and BGA's. The machine allows us to measure the unique electrical signature of components allowing us to compare against known genuine components.

Also if we discover components that we believe need further verification, we will offer further analysis such as X Ray & X Ray Fluorescence testing, Destructive Analysis, Thermal Cycle Testing, Burn In and Fine Gross Leak.

The electrical testing is standard within the Cyclops quality procedures and as mentioned, once again, no test can guarantee 100% that a component is authentic. However, all measures should be taken to minimise the risk.

For more information on the SENTRY machine click here

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Just to make it more complicated...
Barbara Jorgensen   10/3/2012 2:41:10 PM
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Testing may also have to include test for a specific application. I recently heard a story where a defense contractor was testing a COTS part for a defense appication. The part kept burning out. So, as many of our readers point out here, making sure something works is only part of the solution.



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