Recovery Programs: Turning Gray to Green

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William K.
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Re: Scap components and the problems thereof
William K.   4/25/2013 3:22:42 PM
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ddeisz, that is what I meant, since it appears that publicly traded companies are indeed running on borrowed money, and that in addition the very farthest that any of the directors is able to see is the next quarterly profit report, beyond that there is no looking, let alone seeing. I once worked at a company like that, where the concept was to not have any inventory at all, not even a single #4 lockwasher. It was a terribly miserable place to be for anybody with any creative thoughts at all, since there were no resiurces available to do anything creative with. It is quite pitiful to see a bunch of allegedly mature adults unable to focus on anything besides the daily profits. As it continued to move in that direction those of us who had the ability to leave did leave, often un-announced and without even saying goodbye.

I have no idea as to the status of TPI today, and I really don't care, either.

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FLYINGSCOT   4/25/2013 11:40:33 AM
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I wonder how many markets there are?  There is the main one and then if the product does not sell or it does sell and is returned ther are many alternative markets to push those products on to.  I suppose this may continue until a product is eventually scrapped.

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rederringer   4/25/2013 8:30:33 AM
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Hi, HM. Thanks for your comment. You bring attention to another important element of a viable recovery program; reducing the environmental impact of component scrap. Suppliers not only get some "green" in terms of cash from otherwise scrapped product, the other "green" benefit relates to being eco-friendly.

HM
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HM   4/25/2013 8:18:28 AM
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Yes the way our society is getting completely dependant on electronics gadgets, and also how fast technology innovations are done, the ewaste or scrap is also increasing. Actually governments must make it a moral and business responsibility of the component manufacturer to safely dispose off the component that are or can no longer be sold. This also would be a money making thing. Governments must give some subsidy and encourage it.

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rederringer   4/24/2013 9:12:20 PM
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Hello, Eldredge. Thank you for the question. You are correct, the program described in the blog provides end users with authentic product. This is one major benefit to the end user, while another is having immediate availablity to product that might otherwise be scrapped. A program with integrity, however, maintains market resale of the recovered product.

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Eldredge   4/24/2013 8:31:23 PM
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It seems like, on the customer end of this process, the customer can be assured tht they are receiving non-counterfeit product, potentially at a bargain. Is that an accurate assumption?

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Re: Scap components and the problems thereof
ddeisz   4/24/2013 10:23:03 AM
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William,

While the storage of some components will work, storage of capacitors for example, may not.

It never makes sense for a publically traded company to acrue inventory that may or may not sell. Regardless of good intentions, inventory is deemed a bad thing for publically traded companies. It's deemed a build-up due to poor demand or poor forcasting or both. Keep in mind the market dynamics for long-term systems are completely out of synch with semiconductor commercial timeframes and commercial volumes. These two timeframes are an order of magnitude out of synch now. The semiconductor market for long-term systems is continuing to shrink in comparison to the commercial markets which drive the revenue.

Driven by those market dynamics, semiconductor companies are incentivized to never have overages upon finishing their LTB purchases. More and more often, once an LTB event is done post EOL, there is no more product to be had. Even if that product could be had in wafer form, the packaging is custom and EOL as well.

While the article calls out an offering, market dynamics isn't favorable for the business model.

As an alternative, Rochester Electronics is a fully Authorized post-EOL supplier of semiconductor components. We are the largest supplier with this specialty. Our abilities range from finished goods storage to fully authorized replication of products from OCM design archives.

Dan Deisz

Rochester Electronics

William K.
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Scap components and the problems thereof
William K.   4/23/2013 10:11:28 PM
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I find the assertions in the article to be quite interesting. Of course many would say that the ideal business plan would be to carry only the products that the customers will purchase, and to only have as much stock as the customer will purchase. Indeed, if that could actually happen that way it might deliver a maximum profit, and one could then go out of business with no loss. But it should be quite clear that implementing such a plan would require knowledge that not even the customer is privy to, and so that plan is not quite workable. 

The consideration of parts getting old and losing value is an interesting one, since many kinds of parts don't really age internally, at least not in the electronics business. Fresh fish and vegetables are a decidedly different area. The main real deterioraqtion of parts that I am aware of is in the solderability property, where the surface oxidizes and becomes less likely for a good solder connection to be made. That is a potential problem that proper packaging can minimize but not prevent. And of course there is the fact that many parts become obsolete as the fads change and some features are no longer in fashion. That sort of aging is a real problem and there isn't much that can be done about it. 

Of course the parts purchased with borrowed money do keep on costing as they sit on the shelf, no question about that. I suspec that these are the ones that cause the real grief, as the anticipated purchases fail to happen as desired. Stockholders are getting upset with the board for purchasing things that did not provide the instant profits so highly sought after. And there is that constant cost of the borrowed money. So here is a suggestion, but it involves changing the whole game around in a radical manner: Instead of every cent of sales going to pay off the shareholders, how about some investment into the business, so that inventory is not based on financed funds? Spend some of those profits on inventory and have a wider realm of stock, even items that may not be in the top ten products purchased. The cost of non-borrowed capital is less, and so the burde of stock that did not sell just yet is less. And perhaps folks will purchase that stock if they see that it is available.



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