Logistics: Breaking Down the Brotherhood

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prabhakar_deosthali
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prabhakar_deosthali   4/12/2014 6:55:02 AM
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My opinion is that, in any profession we should stop counting women and men differently, because the process of  seperating men and women itself shows a gender bias.

 

 

Susan Fourtané
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Susan Fourtané   4/15/2014 1:23:02 AM
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Prabhakar, 

" . . . the process of  seperating men and women itself shows a gender bias."

True. When I was a teenager, I thought in some years things were going to change. Now I think that's pretty unlikely as this hasn't changed in thousands of years. This planet won't survive enough time for human beings to mature enough to allow such change. The whole planet is still primitive. 

-Susan

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I'm glad I checked the board
Rich Krajewski   4/15/2014 3:21:51 AM
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"The whole planet is still primitive. "


http://youtu.be/veRk5ii0gXg

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Susan Fourtané   4/15/2014 4:10:22 AM
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Rich, 

I'm glad you had a good time cheking the board today. :D I am also glad you did and brought all these pieces of good time to my dull morning.

First Contact is another proof of the primitive reaction and welcome from Earthlings to other beings. 

-Susan 

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Rich Krajewski   4/15/2014 1:48:57 PM
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"First Contact is another proof of the primitive reaction and welcome from Earthlings to other beings."

That wasn't proof, that was a movie.

It's fun to make things up, though, isn't it? It's how a lot of business and government policy is made.

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Susan Fourtané   4/16/2014 1:14:32 AM
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I know First Contact is a movie, Rich. It's still proof of how humans would react in such case: In a primitive and aggresive way. 

Isn't making up things another way of being primitive? 

-Susan

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Rich Krajewski   4/16/2014 1:05:42 PM
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"Isn't making up things another way of being primitive? "

Isn't imagination a big part of what sets homo sapiens apart from the other primates?



 

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   4/16/2014 8:24:53 PM
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@Prabhakar, to play the devil's advocate, i would say that having a diverse group of people (by gender, age, experience, race, etc.) inherently makes for a stronger team with fewer gaps. It doesn't seem that people naturally create this type of team, though. How do you make it happen without enforcement? Or do we just give up?

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Rich Krajewski   4/14/2014 12:58:48 AM

I think I'm on board with the industry's party line now.

If I understand the entire message correctly,

1. Age discrimination is okay, because highly paid old people don't have the skills.

2. There's a skills shortage, so we need to increase the supply of lower-paid new graduates (rather than retrain present employees).

3. There aren't enough women in the business (who for some reason aren't attracted to the lower salaries for women), but for sure their salaries will go up once we convince more of them to graduate from expensive biz schools with a logistics specialization. And if their salaries don't go up from the influx of new graduates--don't worry!--they'll be forced to pay their student loans out of their social security benefits.

Got it!

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Susan Fourtané   4/15/2014 1:13:53 AM
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Exactly, Rich. How brilliant. You summarized the whole thing perfectly. :D

-Susan

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Rich Krajewski   4/15/2014 3:30:39 AM
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Rich Krajewski
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Rich Krajewski   4/15/2014 3:38:01 AM
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Susan Fourtané   4/15/2014 3:58:28 AM
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How nice, Rich! :D 

Lovely music. I'm always looking for movies from the 30s to 60s. I haven't seen Where The Boys Are, now I will. :D

-Susan

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   4/16/2014 8:25:25 PM
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@Rich, now i just feel depressed when you put it that way. :)

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Why women are paid less?
Susan Fourtané   4/15/2014 1:34:25 AM
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Hailey, 

"When you dig deeper you also find that women working in supply chain are paid on average 20 percent less than their male counterparts for the same position; this has to change."

What is the reason why women are paid less? They receive the same education and they do the same work. Many times they do it better because they put more effort into it as they constantly have to prove themselves. 

-Susan

 

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   4/16/2014 8:28:12 PM
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@Susan, you asked "What is the reason why women are paid less?"


I'm guessing that it has to do with a combination of things. I know i haven't advanced as quickly as my male counterparts, but I also chose jobs that gave me flexibility over visibllity in the organization. At the same time, I was once told to my face that i didn't get a particular job because "you are very qualified, but that job has always been held by a man and the industry isn't ready to see a women leading the charge."  Now that was nearly 20 years ago...do you think that would happen today?



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