Economic Reform Can Defend Against Counterfeit ICs

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apek
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apek   8/2/2013 12:06:11 PM
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@Hailey and @Cameron...BINGO!!! This calls for use of Common sense and understanding of common sense when it comes to logic of Supply and Demand as well.  Producers and Consumers are like two wings of a bird. If either of the wings gets hurt, the bird will no longer be able to fly. If that bird is not nursed quickly and properly, it would be disabled and either die from hunger or fall prey to a predator. With the same analogy, both producers and consumers have to prosper for a robust economy. What is happening today is that because of SUPPLY shide economics since 1980...CONSUMER DEMAND has gone down and impovershing Americans has depreciated the domestic consumer demand due to growing wage disparity in US. Unless economic reforms are proposed to increase consumer deamnd through higher wages rather than indebting the consumers, I belive it would bring back the Golden era of Free AMrket Capitalism of 1950s and US would not ahve to do trade with counterfeiters and threaten their own security.

Hailey Lynne McKeefry
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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   8/2/2013 12:14:34 AM
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@Cameron, thanks, that's very useful. This type of situation really does call for common sense.  In the past, i told my clients, "Cheap, fast, good: Pick two."  I think the electronics industry might have a corrolary in terms of ICs.

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Jacob   7/31/2013 11:55:07 PM
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"There is no wonder why US is still depending on China that can make USA full of unemployment. Instead US should reduce the free trade with china and start doing something for the home."

Elctrnx, I don't think US is depending on China for any reason. Actually by anti dumping treaty US is trying to keeping Chinese products away from their internal market



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Jacob   7/31/2013 11:54:59 PM
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"the goverment isn't largely known for worrying about prices... and you would think that, especially with things as critical as aerospace and military equipment, that quality and caveat emptor would be key ideas.  Do you think this is something that has always been true or is it becoming more true now than before?"

Hailey, for avionics and military high grade qualified components are very much required. Such components are qualified after a series of qualifying tests and performance monitoring

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apek   7/31/2013 6:03:35 PM
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When will it be time to hold these military contractors and the buyers accountable for THEIR actions?? 

 

@Hailey,

               Have we held the bakers accountable for their actions after ruining lives of million americans after 2008 crash? No ..in fact...American tax payers bailed out the banks and they ahve become even bigger and stronger. There is no solution until this crony capitalism is brought to an end. No one is going to held the private defense contractors accountable as they work for PROFIT!!!!

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cameron   7/31/2013 4:32:15 PM
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@Hailey, paying a higher price for good quality parts was important 7-10 years ago. I would say in the last five years these military contractors are all about the cheapest price in my opinion. These same companies are taking an extra 30-45 days to pay these open invoices as well.

I have witnessed these contractors getting caught buying parts from companies like VisionTech and Tytronix because the price was low and they were looking to pad their wallets. Then they get caught by the US GOVT when the parts are bad and the equipment doesn't work they point the finger at the broker when they knew right well that if a $100 part is being sold at $40 each there is a reason why.

When will it be time to hold these military contractors and the buyers accountable for THEIR actions?? Don't get me wrong, the brokers that I mentioned above should know better and should not be remarking components in the first place.

Like the old saying goes, if it's too good to be true it usually is. It just seems that common sense is thrown out the window. This is the main reason why in my opinion my company doesn't sell to these contractors anymore. I hope this answers your quesion Hailey.

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apek   7/31/2013 12:19:26 PM
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Thank You to the ones who support my views. I personally believe...Globalization has been one of the biggest mistakes. I believe in Free Markets but I also belive in Balanced economy. The whol control of US economy and its Policies is done by few elite who profit at the expense of 99% suffering. But, This process cannnot continue forever...It lead to a bloody revolution in Roman Empire and collapsed the empire. American business empire might see similarfate unless econom is not reformed. But, In order to refrom the economy...political corruption has to be stopped. The Politicans today in US brag that they have raised so many millions in their political campaign...the sad part is that these politicans end up work for those investors who make them political contirbutions rather than for the ordinary AMericans hwo vote for them. This "Corporatocracy" has to be transformed so that there is economic democracy alongwith Political democracy. Please read this article where we have discussed how can this be made possible.

http://apekmulay.com/an-opinion-corporatocracy-to-cooperatocracy/

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tirlapur   7/31/2013 8:11:07 AM
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I think US has made a big mistake by investing in foreign markets, mainly for wanting to settle for a lower price. The article explains that this flooding of the supply chain can be overcome by being independent, both in cost and kind. It must accept indigenous parts like before, to avert such security crisis.

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nimantha.d   7/31/2013 5:21:10 AM
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@electrnx: I don't think that US has to depend on any country. True China has a good market for manufacturing but still they don't do it for free of charge.

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tirlapur   7/31/2013 3:19:18 AM
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Was there no inspection process before delivery of the IC? If there is investigation process, how 40% counterfeit or defective ICs could enter US? If there are so many defective parts, US should stop the business with China.

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