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_hm   3/15/2014 7:47:38 PM
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Yes, sometime it happens if one is in too much of hurry. But by the time you take one small break, you know solution and problem.

 

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Susan Fourtané   3/16/2014 11:11:29 AM
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I am so happy I don't have those inconvenient problems. :) I haven't had a mind control device, known as TV, for a long time. This means I don't have control, or battery problems either. 

-Susan 

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t.alex   3/16/2014 6:23:10 PM
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Susan, no TV at home and no tablet and smartphones too?

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Susan Fourtané   3/16/2014 7:38:43 PM
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t.alex, 

Ahh, you remember about my experiment with the phone? :D Very nice.

There is no need for having a TV when you can have absolutely everything you need online without all the advertising, and choosing only what you really want to watch.

Television is a thing of the past for me. Absolutely obsolet.  

-Susan

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Wale Bakare   3/17/2014 12:15:55 PM
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>>There is no need for having a TV when you can have absolutely everything you need online without all the advertising<<

Difference in having both TV and Computer at home is gradually going down to nothing. But dont be overjoyed at watching films online without advertisement, though, depends on sites. Online space now becoming a place of ads - unfortunately, you can't pause neither skip until the time sliced for the online advert lapsed.

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Susan Fourtané   3/18/2014 2:01:16 AM
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Wale, 

"Difference in having both TV and Computer at home is gradually going down to nothing."

What do you mean?

When you watch movies online you don't get interrupted every 20 minutes with commercials. 

-Susan 

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Wale Bakare   3/18/2014 6:00:09 AM
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The newer TVs from Samsung, for an instance -  equipped with OLED screen, Sensor for volume control with human hands, Ethernet ports, HDMI and Scart ports. While its remote control got browse buttons and other special keypads, like PC.

This type of TV is just like a computer, one can juggling the live TV programmes and surfing internet, as well making note with its remote control.

So also in a similar way, computer is for computation, browsing and streaming videos like on demands, watching live TV shows. Are there too many differences now in TV and computer? Soon, the differences would vanished, i think.

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Adeniji Kayode   3/18/2014 4:27:26 PM
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@Wale,


You made an awesome foresight there. You wiill quickly identify with the fact that in some part of the world, people still need decorders to watch TV but with the present movement, it will get to a time that movies can be watched on a Tv connected to the internet.

Then there will be less need for DvD players, Blu ray Disc or CD.

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Wale Bakare   3/18/2014 4:52:06 PM
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>>Then there will be less need for DvD players, Blu ray Disc or CD<<

Adeniji, i'm not sure if any future holds for those. With internet of things (IOT), big disruption would consume many. Universal remote control or mobile phone may become multi-purpose smart device for users in a very near future.

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Adeniji Kayode   3/19/2014 4:09:04 PM
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@Wale,

I agree with you on that. That means some generations of our children would get to see some of the innovations of today in tomorrow's museum and from that they wiill know where we have been coming from.

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Susan Fourtané   3/20/2014 5:16:00 AM
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Wale, 

I see what you mean. :) Yes, I think you are right.

In fact, a friend of mine moved to a new apartment, so one day he was telling me about the things he was planning to buy. He mentioned a big TV to watch movies and play video games. 

-Susan

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Adeniji Kayode   3/18/2014 8:43:20 AM
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@Susan,

Can I assume you are a verymobile person with mobile devices?

I look froward to your comment on "What I would Love my Robot to do for me"

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Susan Fourtané   3/20/2014 5:08:25 AM
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Adeniji, 

At this point you can assume it's very difficult to assume anything about me. :D I have spent a year without using a phone as an experiment to write about the experience. That's all I can tell you for now. :) 

"I look froward to your comment on "What I would Love my Robot to do for me""

Where is that?  :/ 

-Susan 

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   3/20/2014 1:27:54 AM
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@Susan, to your point, I find it hard to watch traditional television anymore. I have a TV but with a digital recorder so i fast forward through all the ads.

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Susan Fourtané   3/20/2014 4:30:31 AM
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Hailey, 

Aha! You are cheating. :D You are also saving time. :) You save between 10 to 20 minutes depending on if it's a 30, or 60-minute show.

And you can also pause your show whenever you want for as long as you want, instead of waiting until the commercials. The more I think about it the more I see how annoying watching television is.

-Susan  

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   4/4/2014 8:13:26 PM
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@Susan, Tivo saves tons of time...and yet I always feel there aren't enough hours in the day! :)  I may have to look around for some more technology time savers.

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Susan Fourtané   4/5/2014 3:47:07 AM
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Hailey, 

You feel there aren't enough hours in the day because there aren't enough hours in the day. :D That's my eternal problem, too. What kind of technology time savers are you looking for?

-Susan  

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Eldredge   4/7/2014 8:24:13 PM
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@Hailey - If time-saving technology has reached it's limit, maybe we need to go to a 30 hour day!

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   4/7/2014 8:26:18 PM
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@eldredge, you figure out how to do it and i'm in...as long as i don't have to use all the extra hours for work. :)

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Eldredge   4/7/2014 8:50:29 PM
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@Hailey - Sadly, the best I've come up with is to redefine the hour to be 48 minutes long. Probably not too helpful.

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   4/29/2014 5:03:36 PM
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@Eldgredge, I appreciate the sentiment, but you are right...it probably doesn't attack the heart of the issue. Oh well, back to the drawing board. :)

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t.alex   3/21/2014 10:02:14 AM
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Susan, and how would you go to ebnonline.com? laptop?

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Susan Fourtané   3/21/2014 10:07:18 AM
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t.alex, 

Yes, on my lovely Mac. :) Why? 

-Susan 

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t.alex   4/3/2014 10:22:59 AM
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Susan, I mean you don't use phone but you still have a laptop :-)

 

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Susan Fourtané   4/4/2014 2:53:27 AM
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t.alex, 

I don't see your point about the laptop. :( What does the laptop has to do with my phone experiment? The phone experiment was for writing an article about it. I need my laptop for writing. :D 

-Susan 

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Adeniji Kayode   3/17/2014 5:04:00 PM
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@Susan.

Can I assume you are a very busy person?

Moreover, what about your cell phone and your wall clock.

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Susan Fourtané   3/17/2014 6:14:59 PM
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Adeniji, 

What makes you assume I am a busy person? :D Yes, I suppose I am, but why? I don't have a wall clock and I would never have one. They are super annoying. I am still in the experiment with the phone. I guess you know about this. 

-Susan

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Loose screws lead to complex trouble shooting
prabhakar_deosthali   3/17/2014 12:24:37 AM
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My experience is at work , way back some 40 years ago , when I was working in a testing facility that had all kind of hardwired logic gates based control system.

At one time the whole system had started to act weird - the signals would automatically change the state and the realyas would start chattering - sending all of us in a tizzy about where could be the problem.

For days - we were isolating each signal path , to determine which one was creating havoc but no success.

One fine morning , one of our technicians decided to jsut clean things up and while cleaning the bottom side earthing tracks - he found that the screws tightening the erath connections had all got loose over time because of the constant vibration of the high pressure testing facility .

We all engineers had a hearty laugh at the simplicity of the cause of the problem and the complex symptoms that it created.

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   3/20/2014 1:26:50 AM
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@prabhakar, when i call a help line about some device or other that isn't working, the first question is always "is it plugged in?" Maddening, until you have this kind of reminder that it's these basic physical problems that often stymie us. We are looking for zebras instead of ponies when we hear the  hoofbeats.

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Nemos   3/17/2014 8:26:40 AM
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"I regard debugging and troubleshooting as among the most difficult engineering skill set, and one that is mostly learned through experience, mistakes, and practice."

I can't agree more to this statement, actually the troubleshooting in practice lead one to built up his/her level and to obtain more knowledge on the subject (how/to).

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Nemos   3/17/2014 8:33:54 AM
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 "primarily because your troubleshooting experience caused you to move too far, too fast?"

In my case I can refer from my experience that all the problems came out when you move too far, too fast overseeing a lot of indications about what could be the problem.

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The classic overthinking problem
Eldredge   3/18/2014 8:15:25 PM
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Have you ever jumped to conclusions about a simple problem, primarily because your troubleshooting experience caused you to move too far, too fast?


Sure have. Often it's the classic overthinking problem......before you start opening the covers on (insert whatever electrical widget here) because it doesn't work, check to see if it is plugged into the outlet.

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tirlapur   3/23/2014 4:37:08 AM
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Troubleshooting is actually the work that puts engineers in a rage. However they must be patient while debugging their work, because when the dominos start falling, the engineer would be cursing himself, without any benefits. For bigger projects, managers usually keep a mix of engineers who have a varied experience, and not just on one thing.

Load balancing factor is greater in properly equipped project teams.

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Wale Bakare   3/23/2014 1:05:43 PM
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>>For bigger projects, managers usually keep a mix of engineers who have a varied experience, and not just on one thing<<

You are right. And what actually matters is the nature of work, some critical projects would require experienced and out-box thinkers without restricting them to troubleshooting tools and procedures.

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Hailey Lynne McKeefry   4/4/2014 8:16:29 PM
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@Wale, therte is a good lesson in your story...start with obvious and easy to fix and work your way to complex and difficult to address when trying to solve technological problems.

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tirlapur   3/23/2014 4:42:00 AM
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@Eldredge: Most of us who believe they have enough experience in troubleshooting and debugging jump to conclusions because at the back of our minds we are simply too proud to accept that the given scenario is different from the scenarios where our ideas actually worked. This approach is disastrous in a company as it only increases the time for debugging. Any clever project manager knows how to handle such mentalities and works in such a way that debugging gets done without spilling too much resources, too fast.

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Eldredge   3/25/2014 9:09:05 PM
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@tirlapur - Very true. At times, I have to go back to the beginning of a troubleshooting exercise and ask myself "What assumptions did I make without validating them?" It is oftern the simple things that get us crossed up.



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