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pocharle
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pocharle   2/12/2012 9:49:32 AM
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Susan,

For the food comparision, do you mean Chinese food here... or overseas? Because you're right, people eat it because it's cheap and 'somtimes' is appetizing depending where you get it. But if the restaurant is in the US, then they do have to follow US DOH standards.

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Susan Fourtané   2/9/2012 4:59:05 AM
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"I do not believe an OEM is responsible for its suppliers' actions. I think business contracts should be limited to the agreement to supply and pay for goods or services between the customer and vendor."

Barbara, 

Yes, yes, yes! Exactly! 

-Susan




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Susan Fourtané   2/9/2012 4:19:44 AM
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"I will put the blame on the country's labor regulation authorities."

Exactly, HH. Me, too. 

How easy would it be for a Chinese supplier to accept and follow the US's labor regulations? What other problems would that impy? 

-Susan 

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Susan Fourtané   2/9/2012 4:14:02 AM
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Thanks, pocharle. 

I agree with that. However, in this particular case, I don't see how Apple can be blamed for the supplier's own practices that respond to a different culture and government regulations.

In fact, all this issue reminds me to all what I have seen about many Chinese being totally inhumane towards other species and same species to the point of making me question if they actually have some kind of code of ethics of some sort. I don't know the answer.

They don't have any code of ethics in the food industry, though. And I don't see anyone saying "I am not eating Chinese food anymore and will start eating other kind of more ethical food instead." They eat Chinese food because it's cheap. That's all. Who questions what happened to the food before the food was nicely served on the plate? It's just the same problem, and yet, some seem to insist on making a difference.  Why?

-Susan 

 

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pocharle   2/8/2012 11:38:21 PM
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Yes, customers and vendors alike. If you know that the manufacturer or vendor is doing unethical or no-so-good practices, don't buy from them. It's alot easier said than done, but you can begin the process of looking elsewhere to conduct your business.

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Nemos   2/8/2012 7:25:38 PM
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"then hardly can OEM be blamed for that." What is going on in the next door is our responsibility, and as we are heading to the future, we must throw away the "ostrich method"

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Wale Bakare   2/7/2012 7:40:34 PM
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If business agreements between the supplier/contractor does not include labor/human right, then hardly can OEM be blamed for that.

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Barbara Jorgensen   2/6/2012 2:20:41 PM
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Interesting debate. The reason we see so many Safe Harbor statements on financial releases is to protect companies from the type of criticism we discuss here. Effectively, safe harbor statements say "we can't be responsible for any decision you make based on the information we provide you." I believe that had companies taken the same approach to labor practices, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Stictly speaking, I do not believe an OEM is responsible for its suppliers' actions. I think business contracts should be limited to the agreement to supply and pay for goods or services between the customer and vendor. But many companies took it upon themselves to be the arbiters of right and wrong when they publicly declared their "values." Now, it's too late to turn back.

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Nemos   2/5/2012 3:55:52 AM
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"Why this cannot happen in western countries?" Unfortunately it happens check via Google to find what is going on in France Τelecom.


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Hospice_Houngbo   2/4/2012 10:54:45 PM
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I will put the blame on the country's labor regulation authorities. Why this cannot happen in western countries? Because of the working condition standards and regulations in place in those countries. 

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