Comments
View Comments: newest first | oldest first | threaded
Page 1 of 2   Next >   Last >>
Ms. Daisy
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
Re: Apple's Supply Chain Audit?
Ms. Daisy   2/23/2011 4:21:19 PM
NO RATINGS

It is our collective hope that the supply chain giants will learn from this. But I am not optimistic, especially in light of dwindling profits by these companies because of China's policies. All this is a smoke screen to make us believe the companies are doing something. Unless a third party advocacy group or news reporters keep the searchlight on these human rights violations and worker abuses issues and hold the companies accountable, we will be discussing the topic again when we either have a catastrophe or another company decides to do "an audit".

eemom
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
Re: Apple's Supply Chain Audit?
eemom   2/22/2011 10:01:26 AM
NO RATINGS

As much as I respect Apple for their technological innovation, I have to agree with Hardcore and Ms. Daisy.  The Apple findings are not very surprising.   Everyone knows cheep labor is why these companies contract overseas.  We all inherently know that working conditions are poor in these overseas subcontractors, to fain surprise now is misleading.  Why did Apple wait until now to do the audit?  Why have other OEMs NOT done any auditing?  The answer is simple, they are looking to reduce costs at all cost.

I will say, hopefully something good will come out of this and things will finally change.

Ms. Daisy
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
Apple's Supply Chain Audit?
Ms. Daisy   2/20/2011 10:01:09 PM
NO RATINGS

I seem to agree with Hardcore that this audit by Apple is all smoke and mirrors. Why will a giant like Apple wait till now to audit its business partners especially in light of its doing business in China.

China has been accused of human rights  violations from time immemorial. So why will anyone go into business in China without a memorandum of understanding with contractors that is close if not similar to labor laws in the US.

Apple and I bet other giants in the supply chain that have outsourced to these developing economies have turned a blind eye to these abuses till now, as long as it is not traced directly to them. Hopefully this audit will be a challenge to all in the supply chain to demand fair treatment for workers in the these countries!  

Eldredge
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
Re: Audit
Eldredge   2/20/2011 8:45:26 PM
NO RATINGS

It sounds like Apple was pretty thorough in their audit - interesting results.

Hardcore
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
Re: Apple and audits
Hardcore   2/20/2011 7:40:08 PM
NO RATINGS

I originally did a reply to the Apple 'release', but decided it may be bit to inflammatory to post, even though it did not specifically relate to the case.

Not specifically related to any particular supplier/OEM

To generalize, I notice that the text used a number of classic distraction methods, specifically they 'insinuate' that the report relates more to China, but in reality looking at some of the pictures, It seems this is not the case.

Taiwan is specifically mentioned ,but nothing is actually broken out, I also find the conclusions a bit 'slanted' and this that there are some items just 'thrown' in to balance it out.

Related to  offers of 'benefit' and based on how things work here, someone is trying to pull a 'blinder'.

There is absolutely no way that they only have one incident of reported corruption for a company of that size with that supplier base, generally I dealt with at least one a week.

I even have some photographs of the inspector of one VERY well known 'independent' audit company being 'brown enveloped' out in a company car park, and had another situation where I was 'warned' by a certain inspection Agencies staff for reporting their corruption back to their manager (I'd known the manager for about 10 years)

I have read many such reports, and even developed various systems for supplier evaluation, I can say it is a highly sophisticated process that cannot easily have statistical methodlogy applied to it.To do so, would be to consider that a factory was consistent in all areas without issues related to 'theifdoms' 'power-plays' and 'political maneuvering'.

I have also had the pleasure/displeasure to deal with some very big names and have a very firm conclusion that much of this ethical auditing is smoke and mirrors ,related to feel good factors and market security.

Just for the record, this is not a government problem, it is a people problem and in recent years I can say I have seen a general lack of moral decline in the industry, despite all the  "joy joy feel good" propaganda, but it is said that things generally get worse before they get better. 

 

 

 

t.alex
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
Re: Apple and audits
t.alex   2/19/2011 9:05:06 PM
NO RATINGS

Another question is if chinese government can step in and take necessary action?

pocharle
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
Re: Apple and audits
pocharle   2/19/2011 3:10:33 PM
NO RATINGS

I think at most levels, unfortunatley, alot of the large high-tech companies are guilty of some violations. It's just a matter or when and where they take place. The waterfall affect is taking place now since one big player is busted THEN regulators clean up their act and start checking out the rest of the industry.

anandvy
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
Re: Apple and audits
anandvy   2/19/2011 6:40:33 AM
NO RATINGS

Barbara,

  I agree with you. Third party certification is always better than self certification, because in self-assessment there is always scope for tweaking your report based on your interests. How about "Labour Friendly" certification if the product complies with labout laws, Something simliar to "ECO FRIENDLY" certification.

SP
User Rank
Supply Network Guru
What Did Apple's Supply Chain Audit Uncover? Part 1
SP   2/18/2011 4:29:52 PM
NO RATINGS

Wow thats great that Apple has come up with such review report. It will only bring up its trust among customers and shareholders. Apple would be the only company that has willingly published such a detailed report. Definitely kudos to them...

Barbara Jorgensen
User Rank
Blogger
Apple and audits
Barbara Jorgensen   2/18/2011 11:47:51 AM
NO RATINGS

I agree a third-party assessment is always better, but HP just got slammed for labor abuses by a third party (see http://www.ebnonline.com/author.asp?section_id=1071&doc_id=203791. What do we make of all this?

Page 1 of 2   Next >   Last >>




Datasheets.com Parts Search

185 million searchable parts
(please enter a part number or hit search to begin)
Latest Poll
EBN Dialogue / LIVE CHAT
Have a tête-à-tête with leaders & luminaries
EBN Dialogue enables and encourages you to participate in live chats with notable leaders and luminaries. Not only editors and journalists, but the entire EBN community is able to comment and ask questions. Listed below are upcoming and archived chats.
Archived Dialogues
Thailand Stages a Comeback
Join EBN contributor Jennifer Baljko on Thursday August 23, 2012, at 11:00 a.m. EST for a live chat on how electronic manufacturers in Thailand have shored up their supply chain to reduce the impact of future natural disasters.
Euro-Crisis: What It Means for High-Tech Firms
Join EBN Editor in Chief Bolaji Ojo and Contributing Editor Jennifer Baljko on Thursday, July 12, at 10:00 a.m. EDT for a Live Chat on high-tech and Europe's economic difficulties.
Microsoft Surface: Potential Winners & Losers
What are the implications for the electronics industry supply chain of Microsoft Corp.'s decision to launch its own tablet PC? Join industry veteran and EE Times' systems and OEM expert Rick Merritt on Tuesday, July 3, at 12:00 pm EDT for a Live Chat on this subject.
Latest EBN Dialogue
Join EBN contributor Jennifer Baljko on Thursday August 23, 2012, at 11:00 a.m. EST for a live chat on how electronic manufacturers in Thailand have shored up their supply chain to reduce the impact of future natural disasters.
READ DIALOGUE
Webinars
Upcoming Webinars
Date: 7/9/2013 11:00 a.m. eastern
Peter Drucker famously said "Trying to predict the future is like trying to drive down a country road at night with no lights while looking out the back window." Yet in the razor's-edge world of electronics—with a lean supply chain and just-in-time demands—the need to know the future is vital.
Archived Webinars
Date: 4/30/2013
You've heard the saying "the No. 1 supply chain risk is your people." That hasn't always been the case. But today's complex global supply chain requires a new type of multitalented employee. It's one who understands, finance, marketing, economics, is savvy with technology, graceful with relationships and can think analytically. Where are these people? Are universities properly preparing the next generation supply chain professionals? How do train your existing workforce for these new, demanding positions? Brian Fuller, editor-in-chief of EBN, will lead a 60-minute Avnet Velocity panel discussion that will ask and answer these and other questions swirling around today's supply-chain talent challenges.
EBN Newswire
MANSFIELD, TEXAS   3/12/2013
Mouser Receives Top Award from Harwin
SANTA CLARA, CALIF.   1/29/2013
UBM & Lytica Launch Component Pricing Tool
SANTA MONICA, CA   1/15/2013
Master Distributors Offering Tamura Sensors
FORT WORTH, TX   1/15/2013
Executive Moves at Allied Electronics
MOORESTOWN, NJ   1/11/2013
Alliance Sensors Partners With Marposs
FORT WORTH, TX   1/9/2013
TTI Enhances Apple iOS Mobile App
Video Resources
Twitter Feed
EBN Online Twitter Feed
Like Us on Facebook