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DennisQ
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The Bubble Isn't As Big
DennisQ   10/14/2011 1:43:32 PM
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As someone who lived through the first dotcom bubble (my start-up actually made it and was sold to a bigger company, which was then sold to a giant conglomerate), I think it's very safe to say that the bubble this time around isn't nearly as big.

I do think investors generally learned from the mistakes of the first bubble. It was far, far easier back then to get funding with just an idea or a vague concept. Nowadays, you need much, much more than that before getting that VC backing.

Back then, it was common to see a large investment in a start-up and think, "what are they thinking?!" But these days, it's much rarer to see those obviously ill-advised investments. The last one I remember in recent times was the moronic $41 million thrown at Color earlier this year.

Anyhow, even if there is another dot-com bubble burst, like I said, the bubble isn't nearly as big now. It won't be nearly the disaster the first one was.

I think the bubble of 2000/2001 was kind of a unique situation. Everything was so new. So many people were throwing money at things that they didn't understand. I'm not saying that this no longer happens, just that these days the bad investments are fewer and much smaller in terms of cost. And part of this is due to the fact that the costs of putting together a start-up are a small fraction of what they were in the late 90's.

_hm
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Re: The Bubble Isn't As Big
_hm   10/14/2011 8:20:18 PM
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Investors has do much more research and needs detail understanding of these startups. Some of them will offer novel product and services and will thrive. It is nice to many more startups coming up.

mfbertozzi
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Re: The Bubble Isn't As Big
mfbertozzi   10/18/2011 12:33:53 PM
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Well, in my opinion, it is not completly right to use "bubble"; new start-ups are coming and it is good now and it was good also in the past. Key factor is what there is behind that: fog or consistency ? In case you are bringing on the field consistency, sooner or later, you will achieve good results for your entrepreneurial idea.

_hm
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Re: The Bubble Isn't As Big
_hm   10/18/2011 9:01:07 PM
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I agree with you. Success may be 1 in 5. But that is good rate! You may have to try more - 2, 3 or more. But eventually fruits of one success are so great, it is worth the efforts. Also, it is good for economy for both developed and developed economy.

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Re: The Bubble Isn't As Big
mario8a   10/18/2011 11:31:26 PM
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I guess they use the term "bubble" for similarity with the real-state bussines, where every 10 o 15 years prices are lowered to riase the interest to buy, that might be the same strategy in the supply chain.

stochastic excursion
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Re: The Bubble Isn't As Big
stochastic excursion   10/19/2011 2:25:39 AM
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There are two factors that make any kind of exuberance in tech start-ups unlikely.  One is the unfavorable credit situation that small businesses are faced with.  The other is the trend of more established business to stretch out their payables to 60 days and more instead of the 30 days that used to be customary.

Backorder
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Survival of the fittest
Backorder   10/15/2011 1:35:11 PM
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Interesting obervation by TechCrunch, regarding the darwinism inherent in the present startups' success and failure. 2000/2001 saw a lot of excitement mainly due to the novelty of the industry. Past decade has seen maturity set in with the VCs, which are far more pragmatic with their investements and have reduced the percentage of their bets on really ambitious projects. Hence, I doubt if there would be another dot com bust as severe as witnessed earlier. 

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RE : Avoiding Another Dotcom Disaster
tirlapur   10/18/2011 11:35:08 PM
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The problem, says one venture investor, is too many startups seeking a limited amount of capital.

@Barbara, why do you think there is sudden spurt in the number of startups. What is fuelling this phenomenon? 

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Re: RE : Avoiding Another Dotcom Disaster
Barbara Jorgensen   10/19/2011 10:47:17 AM
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One of the reasons we are seeing a bunch of new start-ups is the success that online sites such as Google, Facebook and Groupon have so far experienced. But they are the exception: a decade ago, there were 50 or more failures for every dotcom success. Social media is now the new Internet--it's a new venue, but nobody really knows how it is going to play out. At the same time, everybody wants to be in on the one compnay that hits paydirt.

 Another reason we see more online companies is they are inexpensive to set up. But there comes a time when even a low overhead compnay has to seek backing. I think that's where many of these companies are right now: they've made some traction on their own steam but need venture to reach the next level.

mfbertozzi
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Re: RE : Avoiding Another Dotcom Disaster
mfbertozzi   10/21/2011 11:51:57 AM
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Lack of quality on IPOs was/is maybe related to a wrong perception about the reason to launch startups. At the time of the bubble, it was broadcasted "start-up" as one of the way to make profit easy. As consequence wrong dream also as marketing message from the valley to incentive ventures in investments has been broguth outside and companies based on poor entrepreneurial idea/consistency have been tried to launch. Am I really wrong on this feeling?

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Eldredge   10/19/2011 9:44:44 AM
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The whole posture of the investing community is, understandably, more cautious and probably more realistic than it was in the previous dotcom bubble. Lets hope that, when the economy does improve, the companies that did obtain funding can flourish.





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