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jbond
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jbond   11/14/2011 7:41:05 AM
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This is going to be a long drawn out process and a very difficult one to end. It is a shame that we are going to have to go to extremes to make sure we can prevent any serious damage. It would appear that these companies are going to have to get very strict on how they control their employees access to data and any removal procedures. 

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TaimoorZ   11/14/2011 7:28:31 AM
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I don't think the US can afford to abandon trade with China or take any strict measures which will hurt the US-China relationship. I am in the favor of a diplomatic solution here which focuses on pointing out the benefits that China itself will have once they implement IP rights management and control counterfeiting.

garyk
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garyk   11/13/2011 11:15:19 AM
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This is a very serious problem and CHINA is the head of it. CHINA is controlling all the Contract Manufacturing, Celestica, Foxccon, Flextronics, etc. what do you expect.

The biggest question to Rayheron, L3 and Lockheed Martin is what CM's are you using to build your assemblies? The US Government has to start addressing the problem.

Bruce Rayner
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Bruce Rayner   11/13/2011 8:55:19 AM
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@clairvoyant.  The answer is yes. Counterfeiters are equal-opportunity suppliers, they don't discriminate when it comes to end markets. Medical is just as vulnerable as military, automotive, communications, etc. The issue with military is that the programs are funded by the government and there are geo-political issues associated with the sourcing of counterfeits from China. Also, the military buys a lot of replacement parts for ancient equipment and the only place you can find these parts is often through non-franchised independent distributors and brokers. So Congressional attention is focused there. The best defense for medical equipment companies is a systematic inspection and testing regime for all parts purchased through non-franchised distributors.

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Clairvoyant   11/11/2011 3:01:18 PM
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This is a serious issue where military products are meant to be highly reliable. Are healthcare electronics being affected by counterfeit components as well?

saranyatil
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saranyatil   11/11/2011 11:01:04 AM
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Diplomatic solution will never happen, but now what my concern is how are we going to get out of china. They already have a good skill set and may try and start ruling over other companies.

Ariella
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Ariella   11/11/2011 8:03:26 AM
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The problems of counterfeiting in the military have escalated. According to reports that came out earlier this week:

Dozens of suspected counterfeit parts have been installed on U.S. defense equipment from Raytheon Co. (RTN)L-3 Communications Holdings Inc. (LLL) and Boeing Co. (BA), including aircraft deployed to Afghanistan.

The Senate Armed Services Committee found counterfeit parts -- usually from China -- on at least seven aircraft, including the Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT) C-130J transport plane, Boeing P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol and L-3 27J Spartan transport.

 

Though there have been no accidents due to te counterfeit parts, so far, there is huge potential for disaster here.

FLYINGSCOT
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FLYINGSCOT   11/11/2011 6:26:11 AM
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With the massive trade between China and USA this is a difficult situation to address diplomatically but something definitely needs to happen.  I guess the USA could stop buying Chinese goods until China respects IP but I am not sure the USA public could stomach the increased costs.

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