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Wale Bakare
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Re: Not so bad on paper
Wale Bakare   12/21/2011 6:10:30 AM
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Yes FLYINGSCOT, still doing OK anyway. How do we compare RIM and Nokia at this difficult period? Meanwhile, i dont think RIM can for go Blackberry - the only business portfolio performing well, even despite behind iPhone and Samsung.

 

 

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DennisQ   12/20/2011 10:45:17 PM
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@Hospice_Houngbo, I don't know if you can blame engineering too much... for all we know, they HAVE designed better products, but for whatever reason they haven't made it to market.

And also top management is responsible for hiring the people the people who hire these engineers... so ultimately it's still their fault if they failed to produce an organization that was capable of building solid teams of engineers.

Anyhow, it's sad to see RIM continue to struggle and slowly lose what was once a complete stranglehold over the enterprise market.

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Re: RIM's Struggle to Succeed
JADEN   12/20/2011 4:28:47 PM
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RIM is starting to look like it's simply against change, as evidenced by its half hearted attempts at making iPhone and IPad competitors.  The blackberry PlayBook was by no means an IPad killer, and the company's touch screen smartphones were laughed off.  I read sometime when the company's management said it won't change course (sturbborn management), the market horizons is shrinking.  I think they need to make a turn to address that, otherwise that could be its total downfall

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mario8a   12/20/2011 4:02:42 PM
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One thing might improve RIM's future is if they can launch a better product than iPHONE, however onething RIM has is very good distribution channels.

Anne
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Re: RIM's Struggle to Succeed
Anne   12/20/2011 3:50:18 PM
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One of the most suprising things about RIM has been its inability to offerr a touch screen-based smartphone that can close to matching apple's iphone.  The company's first storm smartphone was a mess, the storm 2 while better, still fall short.  Now the Torch, with its slideout keyboard, it is so bulky to hold. RIM simply doesn't appear to see the value of new age smartphones like the iPhone or Samsung Galaxy S II.

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RE: RIM's Struggle to Succeed
JADEN   12/20/2011 3:40:19 PM
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Unlike many firms in the mobile industry, RIM's has two CEOs, this is not a good thing. Neither of the CEOs really knows what to do to be successful.  Worse they're are sturbbonly clinging to the past idea. That's not not good for RIM at all.

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Barbara Jorgensen   12/20/2011 3:35:31 PM
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I took a second look at the most recetn results and it's true their revenue gorwth was impressive. Sometimes it amazes me how compnaies can succeed in spite of themselves. There are a lot of embedded Blackberry users out there, but you can only ride your installed base for so long.

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Hospice_Houngbo   12/20/2011 10:37:21 AM
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"the top managment has failed"

It is more than a problem with the top management. The engineering teams should also be blamed because they have not been able to design and put on the market devices that could compete with their competitors'. The answer to the Apple products came too late. 

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prabhakar_deosthali   12/20/2011 6:58:25 AM
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RIM story seems to be similar to that of HP, where the top managment has failed to give the right direction to its business re-orientaion in light of the changing market scenario. For both of these companies their golden days seem to be over and it will be a hard up-hill climb back for them.

FLYINGSCOT
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Not so bad on paper
FLYINGSCOT   12/20/2011 6:27:49 AM
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Revenues still look decent considering market conditions.  If they got out of the Blackberry handset business I wonder what is left?

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